Olá. Vou falar com alguém do IGESPAR com capacidade de nos dizer das
possibilidades em realizar tais parcerias.
João Miguel
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 19:58, Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares(a)wikimedia.pt
escreveu:
> Boas, eu creio que posso dar uma ajuda aqui. As nossas listas de
> património vieram do IPPAR, com alguma magia entre bots e scripts que
> recolheram de webpages para uma Base de Dados, se não estou em erro.
> Posso ver se os encontro.
>
> Para não ter que repetir o processo seria bom fazer uma parcerias com o
> IGESPAR e, desta vez, solicitar a BD directamente, ou eles que facultem
> uma fonte estruturada dos dados - que nós tratamos do resto. Creio que
> também posso ajudar nesta parte.
>
> João Miguel, conheces alguém no/do IGESPAR/IPPAR/IPA? Alguém?
>
> --
> Nuno Tavares
> Wikimedia Portugal
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>
>
>
> Béria Lima escreveu:
> > Bem, para fazermos qualquer coisa, precisamos de:
> >
> > * Organizar a nossa base de dados conforme o padrão da Wikipédia em
> > neerlandês.
> > * Actualizar a base de dados de todos os monumentos classificados (isso
> > se formos usar somente os classificados, podemos escolher fazer com
> > todos os da base de dados do IGESPAR, mas isso é coisa a discutir)
> >
> > Entretanto convinha que isso ficasse pronto o mais cedo possível (no fim
> > de Março no máximo) para que pudessemos passar para as coisas mais
> > "evento" do trabalho.
> >
> > Eu *não posso* mexer nisso até o aniversário porque tenho milhares de
> > coisas para fazer até lá, mas se tu (ou outra pessoa) de
> > disponibilizasse para contactar o IGESPAR e conseguir uma base de dados
> > de todos os monumentos, seria mesmo muito bom. (com uma base de dados
> > pronta, um bot qualquer consegue criar as listas)
> >
> > Aceitas fazer isso?
> > _____
> > Béria Lima (Beh)
> >
> >
> > No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 15:48, Projecto X
> > <mvasconcellosx(a)gmail.com <mailto:mvasconcellosx@gmail.com>
escreveu:
> >
> > Olá, Béria
> >
> > Estou interessado em colaborar nessa organização.
> >
> > João Miguel
> >
> > No dia 14 de Dezembro de 2010 21:34, Béria Lima
> > <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt <mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt>
escreveu:
> >
> > Olá povo.
> >
> >
> > Lembram-se da ideia de fazer um concurso de fotografias para o
> > nosso aniversário de 10 anos? Que tal fazer isso a nível Europeu
> > - mas somente em Setembro.
> >
> > A idéia é da Wikimedia Netherlands - Effeietsanders (aka
> > Lodewijk ) contactou-me no IRC para falar sobre o projecto, e
> > hoje mandou o mail anexo a Lista Interna da Wikimedia.
> >
> > Para participarmos precisamos primeiramente de:
> >
> > Fazer o levantamento de todos os monumentos que podem entrar na
> > competição (Usar a base do IGESPAR pode ajudar) mas temos que
> > fazer a lista usando esse sistema:
> >
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_sys…
> .
> > Já temos uma lista base:
> >
>
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_património_edificado_em_Portugal<h…
> > <
>
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_patrim%C3%B3nio_edificado_em_Portugal
> >
> > mas ela precisa ser convertida para o sistema e actualizada.
> >
> > O resto do "how-to-do" está aqui:
> >
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
> >
> > Como esse é um projecto qeu vai dar um certo trabalho para
> > organizar, convinha comecar a fazê-lo já em Janeiro após o
> > aniversário.
> >
> > Algum interessado?
> > _____
> > Béria Lima (Beh)
> > (351) 925 171 484
> >
> >
> > 2010/12/14 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org
> > <mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>>
> >
> > *Summary of this email *(sorry for long text): We did Wiki
> > Loves Monuments (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like
> > to do Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2011, but now in Europe.
> > This is only possible when many chapters participate,
> > therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only
> > happen on a European level if there is sufficient chapter
> > participation to combine efforts. *Please feel free to
> > forward* to whomever you find appropriate.
> >
> > You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010
> > in the Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo
> > scavenger hunt with 12.500 submissions and over 250
> > participants[0]. We recently completed a post mortem of this
> > event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
> > However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands
> > which can be photographed, so we are considering another run
> > for next year - but then in a European context. Below we
> > will explain a bit how we got where we are, what we have in
> > mind, and what you could expect.
> >
> > So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have
> > the windmill project. One of the main goals was to get an
> > article with an image for every windmill in the Netherlands.
> > Lists were created of windmills per province and statistics
> > were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
> > approach worked very well and made it possible to tackle a
> > big problem; All the windmills have an article now.
> >
> > Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to
> > get a dataset of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national
> > monuments - 60.000 buildings/objects with some historical or
> > cultural relevance) from the "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel
> > Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage organisation, RCE). This
> > marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten" project. The
> > project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project.
> > The data from the RCE was converted into lists by location
> > and put on the Dutch Wikipedia. The community started
> > improving the lists by adding missing information or adding
> > photo's.
> >
> > In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2]
> > : A photo scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite
> > successful (5.400 photos), but much more work intensive
> > because you need to keep contacts with all the museums and
> > usually museums are further away from people's homes than
> > the nearest monuments.
> >
> > For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo
> > competition. The "Rijksmonumenten" project was running
very
> > well so we decided to organize Wiki Loves Monuments to give
> > this Wikipedia project a boost.
> >
> > So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me
> > give you an idea of what we are thinking of, changes are
> > open for debate of course. Trying to incorporate the main
> > lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a European
> > model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments
> > is organized on a national level primarily, but with
> > cooperations, shared resources and international prizes on a
> > European level. The national contests do not have to be
> > identical, but some consistency would be practical. We are
> > not sure yet what countries would be most successful, but
> > our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and
> Switzerland.
> >
> > Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September
> > 2011, and participants would be allowed to submit photos of
> > monuments which are part of the object list. This object
> > list includes the address and ideally geo-coordinates of all
> > monuments which are allowed to participate. In each
> > participating country there would be some prizes available,
> > to be awarded by a jury for that country. The top-X of each
> > could be competing for European prizes.
> >
> > You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized
> > on the post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail
> > how much work it would be, and what the positive impact
> > could be.
> >
> > Most of the local work would be to get a database with the
> > objects, create object lists from that (possibly Dutch
> > volunteers could support you with that, they have the
> > experience [3]) and get the community involved on that. You
> > would need to get communications going, both external to the
> > press (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear
> > website in your language(s) with explanation, rules etc),
> > find a jury and prizes for them to award. We can help each
> > other with example press releases, best practices, template
> > and list examples and community motivation.
> >
> > So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be
> > good to first of all check with your collegues (at the
> > board, other members, community) what they think of it. You
> > probably need several people to run such a competition over
> > time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis
> > on your local situation: who would be good partners (who
> > keeps the lists of monuments?) for you, how many monuments
> > are there in your country, are they well spread? What
> > information/photos are already available of it roughly? Are
> > there community members involved in that kind of topic?
> > Definitely read the post-mortem and some relevant links from
> > there [1].
> >
> > For the time being, we registered
www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
> > <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/> and are in touch with
> > CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage
> > organizations) - who seem to be interested in laying
> > contacts with local cultural heritage organizations.
> > Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
> > and impact this could have. The most important partner in
> > each country would be the one that governs the database with
> > all monuments, and could release that to you. This
> > database/list is crucial for the success of such an event.
> >
> > Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would
> > be interested in joining in such European event, if there is
> > enough enthusiasm, we will create a special (easy to join)
> > mailing list to coordinate efforts to allow more volunteers
> > to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty of
> > discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful
> > that it will actually get to a first grand chapter
> > cooperation program. Of course this does not mean you are
> > bound, but that you think you would like to participate. You
> > can also join #wikilovesmonuments
> > <http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=wikilovesmonuments> on
> > freenode irc of course if you like.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Maarten Dammers (user:Multichill)
> > Lodewijk Gelauff (user:Effeietsanders)
> >
> > [0]:
> >
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments
> > [1]:
> >
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
> > [2]:
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Art_Netherlands
> > [3]:
> >
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_sys…
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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