Hello Maor,
Thank you very much for the clarification.
All the best,
Paulo
2018-05-20 19:07 GMT+01:00 Maor Malul <maor_x(a)zoho.com>om>:
Olá Gonçalo,
Yes, you can count on us to help solve the current situation!
You understood correctly, we would like you not to introduce themselves as
WMPT board members, but as members of WMPT and carry on with your
activities, since all of you are full members of the chapter and can
participate in different activities and events. Just for the sake of
avoiding further confusion.
@Paulo, please carry on with all the activities planned -just introduce
yourself as member of the chapter is needed.
On 18/5/2018 8:50 p.m., Gonçalo Themudo wrote:
Dear Maor and Sami,
Thank you for your email. I of course welcome any action that allows us to
move on.
I believe you mean that we should not present ourselves as board members,
but we can continue our planned activities as members of Wikimedia
Portugal. But please correct me if I am wrong.
How do you propose that we move forward?
Best regards,
Gonçalo
*De: *Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta(a)gmail.com>
*Enviado: *18 de maio de 2018 18:21
*Para: *Maor Malul <maor_x(a)zoho.com>
*Cc: *info(a)wikimedia.pt; Affiliations Committee list
<affcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>; Waldir Pimenta <waldir.pimenta(a)gmail.com>om>;
Gonçalo
Themudo <gethemudo(a)gmail.com>om>; Wikimedia Portugal <lista(a)wikimedia.pt>pt>;
André
Barbosa <andre.barbosa(a)wikimedia.pt>
*Assunto: *Re: Recent developments in WMPT
Hi Maor,
How can we proceed with any activity on behalf of Wikimedia Portugal, if
we can't identify as acting on behalf of the chapter? That means stopping
all the projects currently going on, including #1bib1ref, the planned
seminary at the National Library, the National Library GLAM and all the
other GLAMs, partnerships and educational projects we are currently working
on?
Personally, I'm certainly more than open to any mediation, but this
decision is a seriously setback to WMPT, especially if that mediation is
not resolved very soon. Many of us have invested a lot of time, energy,
reputation - and even our own money - on putting WMPT back on track. We
have a number of activities planned and scheduled - I've one here tomorrow,
a workshop/marathon on Wikipedia at Presença Feminina (a Portuguese women
rights association), on which we planned to connect to Bissau to work with
2 teachers of a school from there. That will be followed by a 25 May, and
also 26 May, and a lot of events and activities are already planned to take
place on June. It is really depressing and demotivating for everyone
involved, and another serious hit on the reputation of the WMPT, if we now
have to cancel all that.
It certainly makes me wonder if I've not made a big mistake last October,
when I proposed to CLEPUL (University of Lisbon), Cátedra Infante Dom
Henrique (Universidade Aberta) and a number of other academic institutions
and associations I have personal contact with to partnership with WMPT and
develop projects together. Last months seem to have proven that it would
have been much more easier to do that individually, or with whoever could
join us from the community (or WMPT).
I'm really not happy in the least with your message, and I'm seriously
reflecting on how much time and energy should I invest more on WMPT.
But more than open to any mediation, as I said.
All the best,
Paulo
2018-05-18 16:35 GMT+01:00 Maor Malul <maor_x(a)zoho.com>om>:
Dear members of Wikimedia Portugal,
The recent developments in your chapter have been brought to our attention
by a number of members of the chapter, as well as members of the community.
We are monitoring the situation and in the meantime, would like to request
all members of the chapter to cease from taking part in this conflict and
to work to resolve differences. You may also officially request a
conversation with this committee to discuss a potential mediation plan,
which we are more than happy to help with. In the case of no interest in
resolving your differences and moving forward, this committee may consider
the de-recognition of WMPT, having taken into account also the low activity
of the group, based on the the reports submitted.
In addition to this, we request that all communications regarding he
present situation be routed directly to the AffCom discussion list (
affcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org) rather than various personal communications
channels. Please also, refrain from presenting oneself as representative of
Wikimedia Portugal until this situation is resolved.
Do not hesitate contacting this committee if you have further questions.
Regards,
Maor Malul + Sami Mlouhi,
On behalf of the Affiliations Committee
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Caros membros da Wikimedia Portugal,
Os desenvolvimentos recentes em seu capítulo foram trazidos à nossa
atenção por vários membros do capítulo, e por membros da comunidade. Nós
estamos monitorando a situação e, entretanto, gostaríamos de pedir a todos
os membros do capítulo que parassem de participar desse conflito e
trabalhar para resolver as diferenças. Vocês também podem solicitar
oficialmente uma conversa com esse comitê para discutir um possível plano
de mediação, com o qual estamos felizes em ajudar. No caso de não haver
interesse em resolver suas diferenças e avançar, este comitê poderá
considerar o desreconhecimento do WMPT, levando em consideração também a
baixa atividade do grupo, baseado nos relatórios apresentados.
Além disso, solicitamos que todas as comunicações relativas à situação
atual sejam encaminhadas diretamente para a lista de discussão do AffCom (
affcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org) em vez de outros canais de comunicação
pessoais. Por favor, abstenham-se de se apresentar como representantes do
Wikimedia Portugal até que esta situação seja resolvida.
Por favor, contatem este comitê se tiverem mais perguntas.
Atenciosamente,
Maor Malul + Sami Mlouhi,
Em nome do Comitê de Afiliações
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