Boas, eu creio que posso dar uma ajuda aqui. As nossas listas de
património vieram do IPPAR, com alguma magia entre bots e scripts que
recolheram de webpages para uma Base de Dados, se não estou em erro.
Posso ver se os encontro.
Para não ter que repetir o processo seria bom fazer uma parcerias com o
IGESPAR e, desta vez, solicitar a BD directamente, ou eles que facultem
uma fonte estruturada dos dados - que nós tratamos do resto. Creio que
também posso ajudar nesta parte.
João Miguel, conheces alguém no/do IGESPAR/IPPAR/IPA? Alguém?
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Béria Lima escreveu:
> Bem, para fazermos qualquer coisa, precisamos de:> <mvasconcellosx@gmail.com <mailto:mvasconcellosx@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
> * Organizar a nossa base de dados conforme o padrão da Wikipédia em
> neerlandês.
> * Actualizar a base de dados de todos os monumentos classificados (isso
> se formos usar somente os classificados, podemos escolher fazer com
> todos os da base de dados do IGESPAR, mas isso é coisa a discutir)
>
> Entretanto convinha que isso ficasse pronto o mais cedo possível (no fim
> de Março no máximo) para que pudessemos passar para as coisas mais
> "evento" do trabalho.
>
> Eu *não posso* mexer nisso até o aniversário porque tenho milhares de
> coisas para fazer até lá, mas se tu (ou outra pessoa) de
> disponibilizasse para contactar o IGESPAR e conseguir uma base de dados
> de todos os monumentos, seria mesmo muito bom. (com uma base de dados
> pronta, um bot qualquer consegue criar as listas)
>
> Aceitas fazer isso?
> _____
> Béria Lima (Beh)
>
>
> No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 15:48, Projecto X
>> <beria.lima@wikimedia.pt <mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt>> escreveu:
> Olá, Béria
>
> Estou interessado em colaborar nessa organização.
>
> João Miguel
>
> No dia 14 de Dezembro de 2010 21:34, Béria Lima
>> <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_patrim%C3%B3nio_edificado_em_Portugal>
> Olá povo.
>
>
> Lembram-se da ideia de fazer um concurso de fotografias para o
> nosso aniversário de 10 anos? Que tal fazer isso a nível Europeu
> - mas somente em Setembro.
>
> A idéia é da Wikimedia Netherlands - Effeietsanders (aka
> Lodewijk ) contactou-me no IRC para falar sobre o projecto, e
> hoje mandou o mail anexo a Lista Interna da Wikimedia.
>
> Para participarmos precisamos primeiramente de:
>
> Fazer o levantamento de todos os monumentos que podem entrar na
> competição (Usar a base do IGESPAR pode ajudar) mas temos que
> fazer a lista usando esse sistema:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_system.
> Já temos uma lista base:
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_património_edificado_em_Portugal
> mas ela precisa ser convertida para o sistema e actualizada.> <mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>>
>
> O resto do "how-to-do" está aqui:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
>
> Como esse é um projecto qeu vai dar um certo trabalho para
> organizar, convinha comecar a fazê-lo já em Janeiro após o
> aniversário.
>
> Algum interessado?
> _____
> Béria Lima (Beh)
> (351) 925 171 484
>
>
> 2010/12/14 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
> <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/> and are in touch with>
> *Summary of this email *(sorry for long text): We did Wiki
> Loves Monuments (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like
> to do Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2011, but now in Europe.
> This is only possible when many chapters participate,
> therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only
> happen on a European level if there is sufficient chapter
> participation to combine efforts. *Please feel free to
> forward* to whomever you find appropriate.
>
> You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010
> in the Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo
> scavenger hunt with 12.500 submissions and over 250
> participants[0]. We recently completed a post mortem of this
> event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
> However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands
> which can be photographed, so we are considering another run
> for next year - but then in a European context. Below we
> will explain a bit how we got where we are, what we have in
> mind, and what you could expect.
>
> So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have
> the windmill project. One of the main goals was to get an
> article with an image for every windmill in the Netherlands.
> Lists were created of windmills per province and statistics
> were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
> approach worked very well and made it possible to tackle a
> big problem; All the windmills have an article now.
>
> Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to
> get a dataset of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national
> monuments - 60.000 buildings/objects with some historical or
> cultural relevance) from the "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel
> Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage organisation, RCE). This
> marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten" project. The
> project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project.
> The data from the RCE was converted into lists by location
> and put on the Dutch Wikipedia. The community started
> improving the lists by adding missing information or adding
> photo's.
>
> In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2]
> : A photo scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite
> successful (5.400 photos), but much more work intensive
> because you need to keep contacts with all the museums and
> usually museums are further away from people's homes than
> the nearest monuments.
>
> For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo
> competition. The "Rijksmonumenten" project was running very
> well so we decided to organize Wiki Loves Monuments to give
> this Wikipedia project a boost.
>
> So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me
> give you an idea of what we are thinking of, changes are
> open for debate of course. Trying to incorporate the main
> lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a European
> model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments
> is organized on a national level primarily, but with
> cooperations, shared resources and international prizes on a
> European level. The national contests do not have to be
> identical, but some consistency would be practical. We are
> not sure yet what countries would be most successful, but
> our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and Switzerland.
>
> Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September
> 2011, and participants would be allowed to submit photos of
> monuments which are part of the object list. This object
> list includes the address and ideally geo-coordinates of all
> monuments which are allowed to participate. In each
> participating country there would be some prizes available,
> to be awarded by a jury for that country. The top-X of each
> could be competing for European prizes.
>
> You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized
> on the post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail
> how much work it would be, and what the positive impact
> could be.
>
> Most of the local work would be to get a database with the
> objects, create object lists from that (possibly Dutch
> volunteers could support you with that, they have the
> experience [3]) and get the community involved on that. You
> would need to get communications going, both external to the
> press (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear
> website in your language(s) with explanation, rules etc),
> find a jury and prizes for them to award. We can help each
> other with example press releases, best practices, template
> and list examples and community motivation.
>
> So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be
> good to first of all check with your collegues (at the
> board, other members, community) what they think of it. You
> probably need several people to run such a competition over
> time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis
> on your local situation: who would be good partners (who
> keeps the lists of monuments?) for you, how many monuments
> are there in your country, are they well spread? What
> information/photos are already available of it roughly? Are
> there community members involved in that kind of topic?
> Definitely read the post-mortem and some relevant links from
> there [1].
>
> For the time being, we registered www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
> CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage> <http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=wikilovesmonuments> on
> organizations) - who seem to be interested in laying
> contacts with local cultural heritage organizations.
> Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
> and impact this could have. The most important partner in
> each country would be the one that governs the database with
> all monuments, and could release that to you. This
> database/list is crucial for the success of such an event.
>
> Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would
> be interested in joining in such European event, if there is
> enough enthusiasm, we will create a special (easy to join)
> mailing list to coordinate efforts to allow more volunteers
> to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty of
> discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful
> that it will actually get to a first grand chapter
> cooperation program. Of course this does not mean you are
> bound, but that you think you would like to participate. You
> can also join #wikilovesmonuments
> freenode irc of course if you like.> <mailto:Internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Maarten Dammers (user:Multichill)
> Lodewijk Gelauff (user:Effeietsanders)
>
> [0]:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments
> [1]:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
> [2]:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Art_Netherlands
> [3]:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_system
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