Olá. Vou falar com alguém do IGESPAR com capacidade de nos dizer das possibilidades em realizar tais parcerias.
João Miguel

No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 19:58, Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt> escreveu:
Boas, eu creio que posso dar uma ajuda aqui. As nossas listas de
património vieram do IPPAR, com alguma magia entre bots e scripts que
recolheram de webpages para uma Base de Dados, se não estou em erro.
Posso ver se os encontro.

Para não ter que repetir o processo seria bom fazer uma parcerias com o
IGESPAR e, desta vez, solicitar a BD directamente, ou eles que facultem
uma fonte estruturada dos dados - que nós tratamos do resto. Creio que
também posso ajudar nesta parte.

João Miguel, conheces alguém no/do IGESPAR/IPPAR/IPA? Alguém?

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Béria Lima escreveu:
> Bem, para fazermos qualquer coisa, precisamos de:
>
> * Organizar a nossa base de dados conforme o padrão da Wikipédia em
> neerlandês.
> * Actualizar a base de dados de todos os monumentos classificados (isso
> se formos usar somente os classificados, podemos escolher fazer com
> todos os da base de dados do IGESPAR, mas isso é coisa a discutir)
>
> Entretanto convinha que isso ficasse pronto o mais cedo possível (no fim
> de Março no máximo) para que pudessemos passar para as coisas mais
> "evento" do trabalho.
>
> Eu *não posso* mexer nisso até o aniversário porque tenho milhares de
> coisas para fazer até lá, mas se tu (ou outra pessoa) de
> disponibilizasse para contactar o IGESPAR e conseguir uma base de dados
> de todos os monumentos, seria mesmo muito bom. (com uma base de dados
> pronta, um bot qualquer consegue criar as listas)
>
> Aceitas fazer isso?
> _____
> Béria Lima (Beh)
>
>
> No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2010 15:48, Projecto X
> <mvasconcellosx@gmail.com <mailto:mvasconcellosx@gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
>     Olá, Béria
>
>     Estou interessado em colaborar nessa organização.
>
>     João Miguel
>
>     No dia 14 de Dezembro de 2010 21:34, Béria Lima
>     <beria.lima@wikimedia.pt <mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt>> escreveu:
>
>         Olá povo.
>
>
>         Lembram-se da ideia de fazer um concurso de fotografias para o
>         nosso aniversário de 10 anos? Que tal fazer isso a nível Europeu
>         - mas somente em Setembro.
>
>          A idéia é da Wikimedia Netherlands - Effeietsanders (aka
>         Lodewijk ) contactou-me no IRC para falar sobre o projecto, e
>         hoje mandou o mail anexo a Lista Interna da Wikimedia.
>
>         Para participarmos precisamos primeiramente de:
>
>         Fazer o levantamento de todos os monumentos que podem entrar na
>         competição (Usar a base do IGESPAR pode ajudar) mas temos que
>         fazer a lista usando esse sistema:
>         http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_system.
>         Já temos uma lista base:
>         http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_património_edificado_em_Portugal
>         <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_patrim%C3%B3nio_edificado_em_Portugal>
>         mas ela precisa ser convertida para o sistema e actualizada.
>
>         O resto do "how-to-do" está aqui:
>         http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
>
>         Como esse é um projecto qeu vai dar um certo trabalho para
>         organizar, convinha comecar a fazê-lo já em Janeiro após o
>         aniversário.
>
>         Algum interessado?
>         _____
>         Béria Lima (Beh)
>         (351) 925 171 484
>
>
>         2010/12/14 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
>         <mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>>
>
>             *Summary of this email *(sorry for long text): We did Wiki
>             Loves Monuments (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like
>             to do Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2011, but now in Europe.
>             This is only possible when many chapters participate,
>             therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only
>             happen on a European level if there is sufficient chapter
>             participation to combine efforts. *Please feel free to
>             forward* to whomever you find appropriate.
>
>             You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010
>             in the Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo
>             scavenger hunt with 12.500 submissions and over 250
>             participants[0]. We recently completed a post mortem of this
>             event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
>             However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands
>             which can be photographed, so we are considering another run
>             for next year - but then in a European context. Below we
>             will explain a bit how we got where we are, what we have in
>             mind, and what you could expect.
>
>             So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have
>             the windmill project. One of the main goals was to get an
>             article with an image for every windmill in the Netherlands.
>             Lists were created of windmills per province and statistics
>             were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
>             approach worked very well and made it possible to tackle a
>             big problem; All the windmills have an article now.
>
>             Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to
>             get a dataset of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national
>             monuments - 60.000 buildings/objects with some historical or
>             cultural relevance) from the "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel
>             Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage organisation, RCE). This
>             marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten" project. The
>             project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project.
>             The data from the RCE was converted into lists by location
>             and put on the Dutch Wikipedia. The community started
>             improving the lists by adding missing information or adding
>             photo's.
>
>             In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2]
>             : A photo scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite
>             successful (5.400 photos), but much more work intensive
>             because you need to keep contacts with all the museums and
>             usually museums are further away from people's homes than
>             the nearest monuments.
>
>             For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo
>             competition. The "Rijksmonumenten" project was running very
>             well so we decided to organize Wiki Loves Monuments to give
>             this Wikipedia project a boost.
>
>             So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me
>             give you an idea of what we are thinking of, changes are
>             open for debate of course. Trying to incorporate the main
>             lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a European
>             model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments
>             is organized on a national level primarily, but with
>             cooperations, shared resources and international prizes on a
>             European level. The national contests do not have to be
>             identical, but some consistency would be practical. We are
>             not sure yet what countries would be most successful, but
>             our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and Switzerland.
>
>             Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September
>             2011, and participants would be allowed to submit photos of
>             monuments which are part of the object list. This object
>             list includes the address and ideally geo-coordinates of all
>             monuments which are allowed to participate. In each
>             participating country there would be some prizes available,
>             to be awarded by a jury for that country. The top-X of each
>             could be competing for European prizes.
>
>             You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized
>             on the post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail
>             how much work it would be, and what the positive impact
>             could be.
>
>             Most of the local work would be to get a database with the
>             objects, create object lists from that (possibly Dutch
>             volunteers could support you with that, they have the
>             experience [3]) and get the community involved on that. You
>             would need to get communications going, both external to the
>             press (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear
>             website in your language(s) with explanation, rules etc),
>             find a jury and prizes for them to award. We can help each
>             other with example press releases, best practices, template
>             and list examples and community motivation.
>
>             So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be
>             good to first of all check with your collegues (at the
>             board, other members, community) what they think of it. You
>             probably need several people to run such a competition over
>             time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis
>             on your local situation: who would be good partners (who
>             keeps the lists of monuments?) for you, how many monuments
>             are there in your country, are they well spread? What
>             information/photos are already available of it roughly? Are
>             there community members involved in that kind of topic?
>             Definitely read the post-mortem and some relevant links from
>             there [1].
>
>             For the time being, we registered www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
>             <http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/> and are in touch with
>             CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage
>             organizations) - who seem to be interested in laying
>             contacts with local cultural heritage organizations.
>             Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
>             and impact this could have. The most important partner in
>             each country would be the one that governs the database with
>             all monuments, and could release that to you. This
>             database/list is crucial for the success of such an event.
>
>             Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would
>             be interested in joining in such European event, if there is
>             enough enthusiasm, we will create a special (easy to join)
>             mailing list to coordinate efforts to allow more volunteers
>             to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty of
>             discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful
>             that it will actually get to a first grand chapter
>             cooperation program. Of course this does not mean you are
>             bound, but that you think you would like to participate. You
>             can also join #wikilovesmonuments
>             <http://piratepad.net/ep/search?query=wikilovesmonuments> on
>             freenode irc of course if you like.
>
>             With kind regards,
>
>             Maarten Dammers (user:Multichill)
>             Lodewijk Gelauff (user:Effeietsanders)
>
>             [0]:
>             http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments
>             [1]:
>             http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
>             [2]:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Art_Netherlands
>             [3]:
>             http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_system
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