Hey Guys,

Where can i view the bylaws? I am in the dark on this.

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  1. Re: Bylaws final draft (stephen wanjau)
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  3. Re: Bylaws final draft (Abbas Mahmood)
  4. Re: Four videos of Wikipedians (Grace Kariuki)
  5. Re: Four videos of Wikipedians (stephen wanjau)


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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:53:15 +0300
From: stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
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Hi Nice People,

Having gone through the by-laws i would like to suggest that;

* We edit the clause under membership that states that a non - member
denied the membership has right to appeal at next AGM. We could reduce
that down now that we are a young chapter and we would like to woo
members to WMKE.

* What if the person over seeing the election is not comfortable to
cast the tie breaker vote?I think we should hold a reelection
immediately. for instance, there was such a scenario at parliament
some time back and the speaker said they must hold the election
again... It would be fair that way.


otherwise thumbs up Abbas for preparing this and I feel that we only
need to clear the above two points and we good to go.

Once again, thank you.

Regards,
Stephen

On 6/28/11, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke@gmail.com> wrote:
> Abbas,
> Great work you have done.The bylaws now have my vote.You can now
> submit them to ChapCom once the other guys have given there take on
> the same.
>
> Cheers and kudos for the awesome work.....
>
> On 6/28/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sawa. Thursday, it is.
>>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:36:47 +0300
>> From: chriwaustin@gmail.com
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
>>
>> Hi Abbas, This is some good work. Please give us a deadline: maybe
>> Thursday
>> noon, we scrutinize the document further before you submit it to chapcom.
>> Have a great day.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Be my guest!
>>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:02:21 +0300
>> From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
>>
>> Abbas,
>>
>> Let me go through them then I will give my opinion by tomorrow mid day.
>> Please.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> stephen w. wanjau
>>
>> Phone: +254 771 557 857
>>
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>>
>> JKUAT
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2011 10:00 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oscar,
>>> I don't know why you aren't seeing the changes I've made -- maybe it's
>>> because I never attached the updated bylaws. Therefore, please find the
>>> revised version attached.
>>
>>
>>> Is there anything else you want changed, or shall I submit it to chapcom?
>>> --Abbas.
>>>
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:51:58 +0300
>>> From: oslimoke@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Abbas,
>>
>>>
>>>> I am okay with the content of the bylaws.Just afew queries:
>>
>>>
>>>> What of the Project Manager position and roles?
>>> Chris came up with a few suggestions and I wrote them up on page 11. Do
>>> you have any more you would like to add?
>>> I am on Page 11 and nothing about the Project Manager is mentioned? Plus
>>> I
>>> dont rember seeing Chris' or anyones suggesdtions other thanAlex and I
>>> about the Project manger's roles
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> And the clause that limits the spending powers of the Treasurer?or it
>>>> would be a silent one?
>>> Ofcourse not. It is under the chairperson's role on page 10. It states:
>>> "He/she shall review
>>
>>
>>> and approve expense vouchers. All payments on behalf of the Chapter shall
>>> be
>>> first approved by him before the payment is made by the Treasurer."
>>> Am at it,I however can oversee a situation where we will have an all
>>> powerful chairperson who calls all the shots.What I maent is ,what if the
>>> chair denys the expenditure yet it may be right?Shouldnt a 3rd person be
>>> involved say the secretary?or any board member?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lastly,I thought we agreed to drop Chairperson to just Chair..:-)
>>> Oscar, I don't remember us agreeing on that. I just checked out what the
>>> word "Chair" means on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair. Do
>>> you still want us to re-title it?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reference but I do think the contexts do point differently
>>> and yes my vote would be for the chair rather than Chairperson...but then
>>> I only have one vote.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6/26/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> > Please find attached the final draft of bylaws with the appropriate
>>>> > changes
>>
>>
>>>> > that you suggested. If it is OK with you guys, I will forward it to
>>>> > ChapCom.
>>>> > //abbas.
>>>
>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:22:18 -0700
From: Asaf Bartov <abartov@wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Four videos of Wikipedians
To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter."
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Hey, I knew those existed, but somehow never got around to watching them.
Thanks for the reminder, Abbas!  They're great!

  Asaf

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I'm not sure whether I've ever shared these videos that were recorded at
> Wikimania 2010:
>
> *Wikipedia: Username* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzUwXaAK2s
> *Wikipedia: Nice People* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoszRJpvAP0
> *Wikipedia: Edit Button *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hWh1Pa44M
> *Wikipedia; Great Feeling* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1JN6m0FTI
>
> Hope you enjoy them!
>
> //abbas.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:43:44 +0000
From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org>
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Steve,


> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:53:15 +0300
> From: wanjaustev@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws final draft
>
> Hi Nice People,
>
> Having gone through the by-laws i would like to suggest that;
>
> * We edit the clause under membership that states that a non - member
> denied the membership has right to appeal at next AGM. We could reduce
> that down now that we are a young chapter and we would like to woo
> members to WMKE.

We can consider changing the right to appeal to the next meeting rather than the next AGM. However, I think that membership denial will be a rarity.
> * What if the person over seeing the election is not comfortable to
> cast the tie breaker vote?I think we should hold a reelection
> immediately. for instance, there was such a scenario at parliament
> some time back and the speaker said they must hold the election
> again... It would be fair that way.
Errrr, I don't totally agree with you in that. Personally, if you tell me to vote again, I will still select the same person(s), regardless of the re-election. you'd have to get support for me to change that clause. At Wikimedia UK, the tie breaker is the one overseeing the elections. At Wikimedia Australia, it's the Chairman who acts as the tie-breaker.
//abbas.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:39:46 +0300
From: Grace Kariuki <gkariuki99@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Four videos of Wikipedians
To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter."
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The videos are great.they remind us of the core objective of Wikipedia,to
edit and share knowledge.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hey, I knew those existed, but somehow never got around to watching them.
> Thanks for the reminder, Abbas!  They're great!
>
>    Asaf
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure whether I've ever shared these videos that were recorded at
>> Wikimania 2010:
>>
>> *Wikipedia: Username* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzUwXaAK2s
>> *Wikipedia: Nice People* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoszRJpvAP0
>> *Wikipedia: Edit Button *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hWh1Pa44M
>> *Wikipedia; Great Feeling* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1JN6m0FTI
>>
>> Hope you enjoy them!
>>
>> //abbas.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:53:03 +0300
From: stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Four videos of Wikipedians
To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter."
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Hi Nice people,

I downloaded these great videos and I was thinking we can include them in
our outreach package which we shall be showing to non members and even
existing members.

Thanks for the links, Abbas.

Cheers,

stephen w. wanjau
Phone: +254 771 557 857
twitter:haha_wanjau

On Jun 29, 2011 8:39 AM, "Grace Kariuki" <gkariuki99@gmail.com> wrote:
> The videos are great.they remind us of the core objective of Wikipedia,to
> edit and share knowledge.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>
>> Hey, I knew those existed, but somehow never got around to watching them.
>> Thanks for the reminder, Abbas! They're great!
>>
>> Asaf
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr@hotmail.com
>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure whether I've ever shared these videos that were recorded at
>>> Wikimania 2010:
>>>
>>> *Wikipedia: Username* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzUwXaAK2s
>>> *Wikipedia: Nice People* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoszRJpvAP0
>>> *Wikipedia: Edit Button *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hWh1Pa44M
>>> *Wikipedia; Great Feeling* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1JN6m0FTI
>>>
>>> Hope you enjoy them!
>>>
>>> //abbas.
>>>
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>>
>>
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