Hi, David.

You are mistaken:  We are not judging all of you, and we have not punished anyone, not even Stephen.  What we did was demand accountability, and that is a non-negotiable part of our movement, founded as it is on open collaboration and transparency.  I realize it's been very demoralizing for the rest of you; I can say I acted as soon as I knew something was wrong -- can all of you say that?  The lack of trust I referred to was what was evident from exchanges on this list in the past few months, not from the side of the Foundation.  I have met a lot of you in person and I do trust you.  I will support you in any mission-aligned attempt you make -- including with funding.

You are also mistaken in still perceiving the revocation of the _provisional_ chapter recognition as a punishment.  That was not the case at all;  the recognition was provisional to begin with, and depended on two things -- formal incorporation within a year, and sustained activity.  Both of those requirements were not met, and so the provisional recognition, which was only for one year _to begin with_, expired.  The embezzlement had nothing to do with it.

To your question, there is nothing to appeal -- that recognition is gone.  You can always apply for chapter status again, according to the instructions here[1], but you would do well to begin by getting people together and regenerating some enthusiasm to do Wikimedia work -- editing sessions, photo walks, training sessions, etc. -- and by seeking recognition as a Wikimedia User Group.  Do note that your group has not been "demoted" from a chapter "to a user group" -- its recognition as an affiliate was revoked, and the group is now simply not recognized as affiliated at all.  To _be_ recognized as a User Group, you would need to seek recognition according to the (much easier) process here[2].

Again, I would urge you to not worry about the status or label of the group, but to instead focus on creating value for the mission.  Once a core of value exists and has some community energy behind it, the rest becomes easy.

Cheers,

    Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_user_group_creation_guide


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:13 PM, David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com> wrote:

Asaf,

I believe that the Wikimedia Foundation did the Kenyan Wikimedians wrong by judging all of us based on one occurrence and purnishing everyone for the mistakes of a few. The zeal and energy that was there was totally drained and beginning lacks the power it requires.

In fact, I believe it would have been best to let us do our own house cleaning then recommend action against any wrong doings.

It is hard to begin anything with the knowledge that there is no trust between us and the foundation.

Lastly, I would like to ask, what are the chances of appealing the decision by the foundation to demote us to a user group?

David.

On May 4, 2013 5:27 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <abartov@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

It is unfortunate the air is still not clear among this group.  "Sunshine is the best disinfectant", said judge Brandeis.  I urge everyone to engage in a frank discussion of what transpired, AND to stop dropping dark hints.  Those do not help at all.

From WMF's perspective, I should note that we have received US$596 by wire back from Stephen, but that the start-up grant[1] is still not resolved, and a full accounting will need to be made of all the grant funds (US$7001), spent and unspent.  Such a report has still not been submitted.  I would urge those of you still interested in pursuing a new beginning to make an effort (I know it's unappetizing) and resolve this ASAP, so we can all turn the page.

I am still convinced much can be done in Kenya, albeit with a different approach.

   Asaf



On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Andrew maina <kimemiaandy@yahoo.com> wrote:

Wikimedians have GIRLFRIENDS! :-O No, but seriously do publish these records and out this truth.
------------------------------
 On Thu, May 2, 2013 7:43 AM MSKS Kosgei Isaac wrote:

 >What a big shame!
 >Steve we WANT the names of all those who used the money and we hold them
 >responsible.
 >
 >
 >
 >Isaac K. Kosgei.
 >Bachelor of Agribusiness Management
 >+254727553981
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 >http://ke.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo
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 > Agribusiness Blog <http://www.kipsizoo.wordpress.com/>
 >*"My satisfaction comes from my commitment to advancing a better world" -
 >Faye Wattleton*
 >
 >
 >On 2 May 2013 04:32, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 >> I have kissed ass for more than a year now...I am the most shaded African
 >> Wikipedian....Yes I ate the donors money as most allege and so what? .... I
 >> do not wish to take this with me to the grave...hate me or love me now as
 >> it makes no difference... I hate all of you. At my tender age my parents
 >> never knew about this white elephant.They hate me because of this
 >> humanitarian movement that I dropped both my feet into... I paid for some
 >> of your escapades with your girlfriends using the donors money. I was so
 >> naive and effed up. As far as Dubai since local was too mainstream I
 >> financed you and some of you and your girlfriends. That is for the inner
 >> cycle and for some I have decided to donate the money since you
 >> have never appraised the debts till now. I still have the statements till
 >> now from equity bank and KCB bank.
 >>
 >> I have all the records with me.....the statements, withdrawals and
 >> everything else as shocking as the next line.
 >>
 >> I hate myself and I still love sharing free knowledge. It is the key to
 >> love and live that keeps me going.
 >>
 >> EFF you and me.
 >>
 >> Yours faithfully,
 >> Stephen
 >>
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