Well said, Abbas,

I wholeheartedly support us going ahead with co.ltd by guarantee and requesting the lawyer to suggest changes to our bylaws accordingly.

Haya, tusonge mbele!

Oliver (aka BT)

 


From: wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abbas Mahmood
Sent: 11 April 2011 15:36
To: Wikimedia Kenya
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011

 

Hello,

 

> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:43:12 +0300

> From: chriwaustin@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
>
> Greetings, the issue of registering the chapter is a pressing matter
> at the moment. Its therefore my appeal to all of us to ensure we get
> the current stalement behind us ASAP.
> As mentioned at the meeting, proceedings between the lawyer and our
> representatives were to be posted; so as to act as a guidance for the
> other members prior to the voting.

 

At this stage, I'm assuming that the active members all know the difference of a trust, society and co. ltd by guarantee. I don't mind writing them down again, but the issue that has just been raised is that this is not a voting matter.

 

>An official voting session was
> then to be organized where the legal vehicle selected by most of the
> members will prevail. However, of greater importance were the by-laws
> that are supposed to govern us.
> Therefore, a greater responsibility lies to those liasing with the
> lawyer in educating the rest of the members before we get to vote.

 

I am the person liaising with the lawyer and I have tried my level best to repeat over and over again what he told me and the ones that were at the iHub meetup. And, despite Oscar being tired of this monotony, I have still taken the initiative to answer most, if not all, queries regarding the bylaws and the legal mechanism to the best of my ability. 


> Moreover, we need to set reasonable time-limits for instance the
> voting date, duration et cetera. 

 

But the issue here is that some people don't want to vote in the first place. So why set a voting date, if this is not an issue that requires voting?

 

Lastly, timely and official
> documentation of any proceedings, sessions and occurences need to be
> availed to all members.

 

What documents, in particular? If it is the minutes, they are on the mailing list. If it's the bylaws, they are on meta, on wikimedia.or.ke and on etherpad. As far as I know, all important documents are shared. It is up to the members themselves to take an initiative of keenly following up the discussions on a day-to-day basis.


> We need to get words into action immediately for the well being of the
> foundation.

 

Not for the well being of the Foundation. The Foundation and the chapters are two different entities. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's for the well being of Wikimedia Kenya.
> Regards, Riwa.
>
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