Ah!

Thanks, Manuel, for the detailed and clear explanation!  I really appreciate it.  Now that you reminded me, I do remember the Kenic problem.  So, by all means, let Wikimedia Kenya take care of this.  I suggest that WMKE add a budget item for, say, a five-year extension of the domain name, to the grant request[1].

Cheers,

   Asaf

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_KE/Start-up

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider@wikimedia.ch> wrote:

Hi,

Am 08.11.2011 21:30, schrieb Asaf Bartov:

> Thanks for thinking of this, David!  Do you have an exact date?

expiration date is January 4th 2012.

> Who owns the domain, technically?

Registrant, Admin-C, Tech-C and Billing-C is David Mugo.

The domain points to my (Master's SYSTEMS) nameservers which hold the
domain's authoritative zone.

> I seem to recall it was paid for by WMCH?  But
> who is the registered owner?

I have transfered the money for the domain fee via Paypal to David and
got reimbursed by Wikimedia CH after I received the invoice from David.

So the invoice from the registry was issued to David and he also made
the payment to them, while the money was finally paid by WMCH.

> I'm looking into the possibility of having the WMF take ownership and just
> add it to the domains it maintains, so this group doesn't have to worry
> about this any more.  I'll keep you posted.

If that would have been possible I'd have done it through my company in
the first place as I hold most of the European Wikimedia domain names.

We have to go through David / Wikimedia Kenya as KENIC only accepts
entities based in Kenya as contacts.

Apart from that I strongly support chapters dealing with their domains
on their own as far as they are capable of doing so. That's why I deal
with most of that stuff. Managing domains through WMF is a pain in the
neck and I have seen several domains being lost / stolen from WMF for
various reasons. While this may have improved since Rob is dealing with
this I know that still some domains are owned by WMF but registered with
several registrars WMF doesn't know how to manage them.

/Manuel
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Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge
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