On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Abbas Mahmoud <
abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Delphine,
>
>
>
> Thanks for being honest with us. We shall review the bylaws and resubmit
> them to ChapCom.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Abbas.
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:15:40 +0100
>> From:
notafishz@gmail.com
>> To:
wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] : Need for a structure
>
>>
>> Hi Abbas,
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <
abbasjnr@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Manuel,
>> >
>> > We have already submitted the bylaws to ChapCom and are awaiting their
>> > approval. I greatly appreciate ChapCom's advice, especially from
>> > Lodewijk
>> > and Delphine. Sometimes back in December, i asked Lodewijk about when we
>> > should expect to be approved. He told me that we should have a look at
>> > the
>> > draft bylaws and seal all the remaining loopholes and submit a final
>> > draft
>> > and hopefully ChapCom would give their approval probably 2weeks later.
>>
>> I must say that I read this and was "ooops!, I've missed a step", as i
>> didn't recall any request for bylaws approval sent to the chapcom in
>> the past few weeks for Wikimedia Kenya.
>>
>> So I looked back on the history of our exchanges and came to the
>> following timeline:
>> * July 2010, Abbas sends us the byalws to get approved
>> * after which he and I have a quite long conversation about whether or
>> not to start with founding the chapter or maybe start getting into the
>> nick of things and organize wikipedia centered
>> events/happenings/projects.
>> * You all pull together the Wikipedia at School project, which is
>> officially launched a few days ago
>> *along with Ting's and other WMF people visit.
>>
>> I have to say that between July and now, I personally had completely
>> forgotten that there was a "pending approval" of bylaws.
>>
>> As such, I first want to apologize for this misunderstanding, because
>> in my mind's eye, the chapter idea was put on hold until more people
>> were found and active supporters gained to the cause of a chapter.
>>
>> So to be fair, chapcom has not reviewed the bylaws at all. So it's not
>> like we're taking our time, we just weren't that clearly aware that
>> the bylaws were awaiting approval.
>>
>> > At that time, we were all engaged in making preparations for Ting's
>> > arrival,
>> > the Wikipedia 10 Anniversary & the Wikipedia Schools Project so I really
>> > didn't prioritize reviewing the bylaws. Since we've relieved most of our
>> > burden now, I guess it's now time to review and make the final touches
>> > in
>> > the bylaws and we'll hopefully submit a final draft to ChapCom by 1st
>> > February.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, my mistake, how do we get forward? Well, your outline above
>> makes perfect sense. So here goes:
>>
>> *Your group reviews the bylaws that are on meta, to see if they still
>> suit your needs/wishes
>> *You fill the little "questionnaire" Chapcom put together to give us
>> something of an "identity card" of what the active people is all about
>> [1]
>> * Once you all agree on the final version of the bylaws, you
>> (re)submit to chapcom and we will look at them and go through the
>> discussion process.
>>
>> I just want to make sure that the bylaws submission reflects the
>> people involved today, and make sure that founding a chapter is really
>> the goal you want to pursue as a group and not some proposal that once
>> was and that we're pulling out of our drawers for convenience.
>>
>> I am really looking forward to working with you all and hoping we can
>> get Wikimedia Kenya on tracks as soon as possible. :) I want to
>> apologize if you had been under the impression the chapcom was not
>> doing its job... we were not, but because we didn't really consciously
>> know we had a job to do. :D
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Delphine
>> [1]
>>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Pipeline/Follow-up_questions
>> (fill it on the meta page for Wikimedia Kenya, for example, or on a
>> subpage of the same.
>>
>>
>>
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