Well, I think the commons page should act more of an organizing page rather than the advertising page. We were to initially have wikilovesmonuments.or.ke so I guess we can have the Wikipedia page Steve made serve that purpose, no?

So I've also checked out the WLM android app where Kenya isn't listed. I'm not sure how to go about getting monuments in Kenya on it but I'll poke around tonight and if it's something that need sometime to do (plotting coordinates) I can spend most of tomorrow doing that.

@Oscar, I'm around, was just a bit slumped but I'm coming out of it :)

Alex

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:

Well I understand that the WLM is a commons project and I would also
wish that we have our competition page hosted there. I created the page
on Wikipedia with this in mind and my option to put it up on Wikipedia
was because am a bit more conversant with how stuff works there and
majorly the {{start tab}}. Wikimedia projects usually complement each
other and for this case we will be using Wikipedia to communicate that
there is a competition but the uploads are being redirected to commons
via the participate button at [1].

Norway have also set up their competition on the Norge Wikipedia, see [2]

Creating a redirect to this page on Wikipedia when users click on the
banners is also possible and a faster thing to do than importing
templates that might only be used once in their lifetime on Wikicommons.

It is still possible to migrate the page to commons if we get any of
Commons Administrators, Importers or Transwiki importers to move the
template. We can as well come up with another instructions page on
commons but I think most of the work is already covered in the Wikipedia
page.

Seems am defending the template so much but by doing away with it our
page will not look like [3]. If every one is ok with [3] I will migrate
the code to the commons page.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Nairobi/Partcipate

2. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012

3.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya#Proposed_site

//Stephen.

On 09/12/2012 08:12 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:

> I think the redirect should remain in Commons. Since WLM is a Commons
> project.Would be great to put all the Content on our Commons page and let
> the redirect remain to it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Habari!
>>
>> Well I think the WLM site at [1] is now better than [2].The instructions
>> on how-to participate are clear and things are a bit more organized.
>>
>> One more thing remains...When users click on the links in the banners
>> to participate in WLM KE from the various Wikimedia projects, they are
>> being taken to the Wikicommons planning page at [2] which has no leads
>> on how-to participate.
>>
>> I suppose that should be changed to redirect users to the new
>> Wikipedia site at [1], or if that is not possible then we will have
>> to move the templates and the whole content!
>>
>> I prefer the redirect as it is easier. If that is not possible since it
>> is a commons to Wikipedia situation, we can put an instruction at [2]
>> directing users to the new Wikipedia page at [1].
>>
>> What are your thoughts on this?
>>
>> PS: Are we still issuing some local prizes or the participants will just
>> enter into the int'l compe?
>>
>> ./Stephen
>>
>> 1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Nairobi
>> 2.
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya
>>
>> On 09/12/2012 01:31 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> I have created the essential pages to guide participants to the Kenyan
>>> edition of WLM 2012. See [1] below.
>>>
>>> I hope it is now useful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ./Stephen
>>>
>>> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Kenya
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/11/2012 11:56 PM, Lodewijk wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Oscar: Not sure where you got that message.
>>>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=wlm-ke
>>>>
>>>>
>>> seems to work fine for me. Please let me know if you were expecting
>>>> something else.
>>>>
>>>> Great things are moving again!
>>>>
>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>
>>>> 2012/9/11 Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> several people (see link [2] of Stephen) have indicated they
>>>>>> want to
>>>>> help.
>>>>>> Currently there are still zero uploads from Kenya, because it
>>>>>> is not
>>>>> clear
>>>>>> to people how to upload. Who is in charge for Wiki Loves
>>>>>> Monuments Kenya (or who wants to take responsibility and get
>>>>>> things moving)? How can I
>>>>> help
>>>>>> you to get the priorities straight and get things done? What is
>>>>>> the
>>>>> bottle
>>>>>> neck?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well the priority is to get a site with full instructions on how
>>>>> to enter the competition. Well, I have tried making a page in
>>>>> commons using the [[Template:tabbar}} approach but seems I am
>>>>> missing out something and it did not work out. So I am looking
>>>>> forward with some help with that. I expected the tabs to have the
>>>>> navigation links to: about WLM, How to participate, Where to find
>>>>> monuments, lists of the monuments etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the discussion page at [1] is the best to discuss of
>>>>> having the site up.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will take charge to get things moving if no one else has taken
>>>>> this up.
>>>>>
>>>>> ./Stephen.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Best,
>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/9/9 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the highest priority should have a clear description on the
>>>>>>> top of that page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) how people can participate (how to find the monuments, and
>>>>>>> how to upload) 2) what they can win (even if that prize is
>>>>>>> only a virtual one and a nomination for the international
>>>>>>> finale) 3) who will judge 4) what are the criteria
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am surprised that this is still not clearly described on
>>>>>>> your page -
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> can now understand better why there are still no uploads for
>>>>>>> Kenya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if we need to help in any way, or need to
>>>>>>> explain how to do something. However, the work will still lie
>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, Lodewijk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/9/9 Stephen <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The plans to participate in the aforementioned subject had
>>>>>>>> already started with the preparation of a planning page
>>>>>>>> [1]. There have been
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> volunteers who have shown interest by signing up as willing
>>>>>>>> to help or participate in WLM 2012 [2]. I have responded to
>>>>>>>> some private E-mails
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> willing participants and I expect the enquiries to
>>>>>>>> increase. I
>>>>> therefore
>>>>>>>> welcome more Wikimedians to assist me with that by probably
>>>>>>>> adding the email me in their commons usernames like I have
>>>>>>>> done on mine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ./Stephen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**
>>>>>>>> Monuments_2012_in_Kenya<
>>>>>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 2. http://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_**
>>>>>>>> Monuments_2012_in_Kenya#Get_**involved.21<
>>>>>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012_in_Kenya#Get_involved.21
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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