Thanks for being honest with us. We shall review the bylaws and resubmit them to ChapCom.

Cheers,

Abbas.



 
> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:15:40 +0100
> From: notafishz@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] : Need for a structure
>
> Hi Abbas,
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Manuel,
> >
> > We have already submitted the bylaws to ChapCom and are awaiting their
> > approval. I greatly appreciate ChapCom's advice, especially from Lodewijk
> > and Delphine. Sometimes back in December, i asked Lodewijk about when we
> > should expect to be approved. He told me that we should have a look at the
> > draft bylaws and seal all the remaining loopholes and submit a final draft
> > and hopefully ChapCom would give their approval probably 2weeks later.
>
> I must say that I read this and was "ooops!, I've missed a step", as i
> didn't recall any request for bylaws approval sent to the chapcom in
> the past few weeks for Wikimedia Kenya.
>
> So I looked back on the history of our exchanges and came to the
> following timeline:
> * July 2010, Abbas sends us the byalws to get approved
> * after which he and I have a quite long conversation about whether or
> not to start with founding the chapter or maybe start getting into the
> nick of things and organize wikipedia centered
> events/happenings/projects.
> * You all pull together the Wikipedia at School project, which is
> officially launched a few days ago
> *along with Ting's and other WMF people visit.
>
> I have to say that between July and now, I personally had completely
> forgotten that there was a "pending approval" of bylaws.
>
> As such, I first want to apologize for this misunderstanding, because
> in my mind's eye, the chapter idea was put on hold until more people
> were found and active supporters gained to the cause of a chapter.
>
> So to be fair, chapcom has not reviewed the bylaws at all. So it's not
> like we're taking our time, we just weren't that clearly aware that
> the bylaws were awaiting approval.
>
> > At that time, we were all engaged in making preparations for Ting's arrival,
> > the Wikipedia 10 Anniversary & the Wikipedia Schools Project so I really
> > didn't prioritize reviewing the bylaws. Since we've relieved most of our
> > burden now, I guess it's now time to review and make the final touches in
> > the bylaws and we'll hopefully submit a final draft to ChapCom by 1st
> > February.
>
>
> Anyway, my mistake, how do we get forward? Well, your outline above
> makes perfect sense. So here goes:
>
> *Your group reviews the bylaws that are on meta, to see if they still
> suit your needs/wishes
> *You fill the little "questionnaire" Chapcom put together to give us
> something of an "identity card" of what the active people is all about
> [1]
> * Once you all agree on the final version of the bylaws, you
> (re)submit to chapcom and we will look at them and go through the
> discussion process.
>
> I just want to make sure that the bylaws submission reflects the
> people involved today, and make sure that founding a chapter is really
> the goal you want to pursue as a group and not some proposal that once
> was and that we're pulling out of our drawers for convenience.
>
> I am really looking forward to working with you all and hoping we can
> get Wikimedia Kenya on tracks as soon as possible. :) I want to
> apologize if you had been under the impression the chapcom was not
> doing its job... we were not, but because we didn't really consciously
> know we had a job to do. :D
>
> Best,
>
> Delphine
> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Pipeline/Follow-up_questions
> (fill it on the meta page for Wikimedia Kenya, for example, or on a
> subpage of the same.
>
>
>
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