Hi , Please find the reply inline . On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ <nani1only(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: Small Doubt : Location is given as //LocationAt your homes, over a cup of coffee!// And you call it as A2K's event . Don't you think its taking undue credit for the work which community is doing ? I need a help . How is the metrics being set , for A2K driven wikidata update and community driven wikidata updates ? Regards , Sibi

Rahim, Thanks for educating the community about bad practices as a CIS employee :) Ravi

Hi , On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ <nani1only(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: Sorry I never knew using mailing list was a "bad practise" . Could you please let me know why its so ? Any documented evidence or rule that I must not use mailing list for a discussion which has started in mailing list . Please let me know . It may be your own take that you will answer "only there" , then why announce it in mailing list ? Am I supposed to take this as a "high handed order" from paid professional to a community member ? Nonetheless . The questions have been asked by Srikanth in talk page . Waiting for the reply atleast there :) -Sibi

Hi Gerard, Thank you. I thought Srikanth R already knew that. Srikanth, my apologies. all this time, I was assuming you knew how Wikidata and Wikidata search results work in Indic Wikipedias. If not, please check this blog post : http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.in/2014/04/wikipedia-search-for-in-telugu.h… Please do any discussions on talk page only. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com > Hoi, > There is no need to have articles first.. > > We have added quite a number of members of the National Assemblee of South > Africa that do not have any mention in any wikipedia but a red link. With > items in Wikidata and associated labels all these people can be found in > any Wiki that has WD-search enabled. Like in India, South Africa has many > official languages and languages that are both spoken and written. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 15 May 2014 12:29, Srikanth Ramakrishnan &lt;rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com> >> Hi rahim, >> a few pointers as a Wikidata editor. >> >> Please wait till the results are out completely. >> Wait for a while to ensure that atleast one article, in atleast one >> language is created before creating a data item. >> >> Why is this coming under the A2K? >> >> Shouldn't it be a community event? >> >> >> >> On 14 May 2014 20:30, రహ్మానుద్దీన్ షేక్ &lt;nani1only(a)gmail.com>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> As everyone is aware, Results of general elections are going to be >>> announced on 16th of this month. >>> In this regard, we are planning for a Wikidata labelathon for Indian >>> parliamentarians who are declared win - constituency wise in these >>> elections. >>> This will involve creating label for each parliamentarian and a >>> description that says which constituency, state and party that politician >>> is from. >>> This will ensure that each language has at least a single line about >>> each of the elected public representatives. >>> Those who are interested, please fill in your names in the event page >>> here : >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Indian_Par… >>> This project would run for 2 month period, and ensure that this labeling >>> happens in all Indian languages. >>> For any other help, please feel free to contact. >>> >>> -- >>> With thanks & regards >>> *Rahimanuddin Shaik* >>> నాని >>> >>> >>> [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/> >>> reachout >>> >>> ఒక విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి, ఎక్కడయితే ప్రతి మనిషి ఒక సంపూర్ణ >>> విజ్ఞానభాండారాన్ని అందరితో పంచుకోగలడో, ఆ విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి. *అటువంటి >>> విశ్వాన్ని నెలకొల్పడమే మా సంకల్పం.* >>> తెలుగు వికీపీడియా : http://te.wikipedia.org >>> A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com >>> *తెలుగువారికి సాంకేతిక సహాయం - http://techsetu.com >>> <http://techsetu.com/>* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Srikanth Ramakrishnan, >> What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce >> back. >> >> Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore: >> >> https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-in… >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > -- With thanks & regards *Rahimanuddin Shaik* నాని [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/> reachout ఒక విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి, ఎక్కడయితే ప్రతి మనిషి ఒక సంపూర్ణ విజ్ఞానభాండారాన్ని అందరితో పంచుకోగలడో, ఆ విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి. *అటువంటి విశ్వాన్ని నెలకొల్పడమే మా సంకల్పం.* తెలుగు వికీపీడియా : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com *తెలుగువారికి సాంకేతిక సహాయం - http://techsetu.com <http://techsetu.com/>*

Ravi, Please educate me on what a CIS employee should do and what he is not supposed to do. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Ravishankar &lt;ravidreams(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- With thanks & regards *Rahimanuddin Shaik* నాని [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/> reachout ఒక విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి, ఎక్కడయితే ప్రతి మనిషి ఒక సంపూర్ణ విజ్ఞానభాండారాన్ని అందరితో పంచుకోగలడో, ఆ విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి. *అటువంటి విశ్వాన్ని నెలకొల్పడమే మా సంకల్పం.* తెలుగు వికీపీడియా : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com *తెలుగువారికి సాంకేతిక సహాయం - http://techsetu.com <http://techsetu.com/>*

Hi Ravi, I ask the same, Who are you to dictate what I should do? And what my community should do? I didnt shout at you, you are shouting at me everytime you remind me that whatever I do is being done as CIS employee, though this whole conversation goes with my personal ID and not CIS's. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Ravishankar &lt;ravidreams(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- With thanks & regards *Rahimanuddin Shaik* నాని [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/> reachout ఒక విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి, ఎక్కడయితే ప్రతి మనిషి ఒక సంపూర్ణ విజ్ఞానభాండారాన్ని అందరితో పంచుకోగలడో, ఆ విశ్వాన్ని ఊహించండి. *అటువంటి విశ్వాన్ని నెలకొల్పడమే మా సంకల్పం.* తెలుగు వికీపీడియా : http://te.wikipedia.org A new address for ebooks : http://kinige.com *తెలుగువారికి సాంకేతిక సహాయం - http://techsetu.com <http://techsetu.com/>*

Rahim, Let me decalre this. I am BOYCOTTING to sign up for this labelothon event for the following reasons. * Signing up for this event will only help CIS-A2K undue credit for existing organic communty's work. There has been past evidences for these as seen https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/… and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/… * Soon after I register a difference of opinion in META, I receive a phone call shouting at me and a Facebook chat challenging me to an edit from a CIS employee. This is no way to treat the community members and I strongly PROTEST. * I would rather spend my energy in contributing to full length articles like https://ta.wikipedia.org/s/3hjv which are more useful and highly visible. Ravi

Hoi, EMPTY data items get deleted. When they have statements that carry weight .. ie they fulfil the notability requirements of Wikidata, they are welcomed. I am sure that new members of the Lok Sabha will be welcomed. When it still proves to be an issue, I am happy to champion them. Thanks, GerardM On 17 May 2014 09:32, Srikanth Ramakrishnan &lt;rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

hi Rahim, Your first email to this thread did come from your personal email id. However, I do think that you should have stated on the email that you are taking this initiative as a community member and not as an employee of CIS. This is a practice that is common and standard practise among WMF staff who are also community members and it is worth doing so here as well as long as we have paid staff. The default assumption for any of your emails to this list currently will be that this effort is undertaken by you as an employee of CIS-A2K. If you are taking this effort as a community member, you need to state this upfront. Your replies to community member (here - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011348.html) and elected WMIN EC (here - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011341.htmla… here - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-May/011338.html) leaves a lot to be desired. There is a higher expectation from you since you are doing this work full time. Community members and WMIN EC are doing this on the side along with other activities an work and are participating because they are interested in the movement. It is not easy to balance these easily. This should have your consideration as a full-time paid employee. I have asked this question on Meta and you are free to answer there but I'm writing the question here for the sake of completeness of this email thread. I have read all the links on the page and have contributed to WikiData myself. I am no expert and I fail to understand what this Label-a-thon seeks to achieve. To give you an example so that you can answer better, an edit-a-thon seeks to improve an article on Wikipedia accessed by the general public. In a similar vein, what does this Label-a-thon seek to achieve? Can you please explain the same in simple words? Thank you, warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas On 18 May 2014 15:29, Ravishankar &lt;ravidreams(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9