"Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google pays to do the same ?"

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:31 PM, CherianTinu Abraham &lt;tinucherian(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: pays Reminds me, in a tangential way, of <http://stormyscorner.com/would-you-do-it-again-for-free> -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay <http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog> _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Hi Bala, Thanks for the stats. On Google: While we have no new Google articles for the last 5 months, around 600 articles get created every month in Tamil Wikipedia. So concerning Tamil Wikipedia's case, Google has not contributed much article number wise. But all their articles are very lengthy and hence have contributed significantly to the total number of words in all Indic Wikis they operate. ( Precise stats of number of words can be obtained from Google's presentation in last Wikimania). Nevertheless, Google articles are still under review in Tamil Wikipedia. they may be moved to user namespace in bulk and will be moved back only after meeting quality guidelines. While Google has contributed in some way in increasing article count, size in the Wikipedias it operates, it is a thing of concern as their sub standard translation can bring down the image of Wikipedias concerned. Also, small Wikipedias which don't have a well knot community won't be able to control Google's operation or improve the quality of the articles. On Paid translation: //*Why should regular Wikipedians be motivated to contribute when Google pays to do the same ?"* // This is a very easy question. Many of the regular Wikipedians are professionals of high calibre and their time is much more worth than what the translators get paid. It is not money that motivates them but the spirit of contributing / pleasure of doing something they like. So they will continue to contribute. Especially, when paid translators do sub standard work, they think better to stop it and just do it themselves. Ravi On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Bala Jeyaraman &lt;sodabottle(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

fluent in Hindi. So can somebody post a link or two of translated hindi article/s so one can see how to note /notice if an article is translated .

would be interested to also what 'google bots' have to write besides the article in order to get paid.

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Just an example of Google translated article on "Internet Protocol" in Kannada Wikipedia. http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%82%E0%B2%A4%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%9C%… Check its history http://kn.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%82%E0%B2%A4%E0%B2… See the edit summary " (Translated from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol (revision: 408211110) using http://translate.google.com/toolkit with about 97% human translations.) " in the History of article. They are not Automated Google bots. These are done by (very :) ) human translators paid by Google. I am working on a tool with Phlip Tiju ( User:Indianmagicians ) to find stats on organically created articles , bot articles & Google translations. Will update soon. Regards Tinu Cherian