Tinu,
I understand that we need more members to take the movement forward, but we
need to ensure that only genuinely interested people become a part of the
chapter.
Imagine this: Some comapny is unable to promote their product on Wikipedia.
Keeps getting deleted. [Read the mail I sent about Marketing, last week].
One of them joins the chapter, becomes part of the EC after the AGM. What
if he/she now uses that position to promote their comapny?
Think about it.
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
<tinucherian(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Thanks Srikanths for initiating this useful
discussion.
Yes, we are all aware of the problem. But then again there are no straight
forward answers & solutions too.
Ironically it is a similar to the "chicken & egg problem". The chapter
needs the community to grow strong... The community will join the chapter
only if it is strong".
One of things, we are trying is to expand the chapter leadership & larger
community participation is by forming special interest groups for languages
& cities. The SIG chair will form the SIG teams that will help & steer,
catalyst the development of the particular communities
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_SIG_subcommittee_chair Many
other teams like Finance, Fundraising , Web, PR/Media Relations, Outreach
are in making and will be rolled out soon.
Bala, Welcome to the chapter ! :) Only if enthusiastic community members
like you come forward , we can make the chapter a better place.
I also want to use this opportunity to open up discussion ( to all) on
what should the chapter do.
1) in terms of getting more & more community members
2) having a better relation & participation with the community at large.
3) and what the community expects the chapter to do.
I would request to keep this discussion healthy and constructive. ( and
obviously no personal attacks )
Over to you, dear community...
-TC
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Bala Jeyaraman <sodabottle(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
+1 for recruiting more Wikipedian members.
I am one of those Wikipedians who hasn't become a member of the chapter
because i am hesitant to get involved in chapter politics and fear of being
forced to follow the agenda set by people who know nothing about Wikipedia
(except perhaps talking about it). I am sure there are more wikipedians
like me who are just observing what goes on from the sidelines. It is
people like us who need to be prodded and dragged to become chapter
members.(I will send in my membership application soon).
Getting non-wikipedians to sign up and increasing the numbers will
eventually lead to an organisation completely out of tune with the
Wikimedia movement. Numbers for numbers sake is not the road we should
take. As Srikanth R pointed out, there are a lot of people who would love
to take control. I believe such a thing did happen once before and the
chapter was forced to send legal notices to dissuade it. Recruiting
numbers for numbers sake might well lead to such a situation again. And
when that happens chapter will become yet another talk only organisation
completely irrelevant to what Wikipedia actually is.
So lets not put up any barriers for membership but at the same time, lets
not advertise chapter membership to completely new people by going on
membership drives in outreach events.
-
Bala
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 19:01, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I am very much in favour of ( sincerely wishes so) the active
>> community members being part of the chapter and its leadership and taking
>> the chapter is next level. The chapter will have lose its relevance
>> unless the community takes control of it and shape its future.
>
> Word.
>
> I keep iterating this often, May I ask to kindly remove the notion that
>> Chapter = EC. Each one of us has an equal responsibility ( and opportunity)
>> to take it forward and drive the chapter.
>
>
> With the very same intent, I opened up the thread, which EC has not
> opened / made much progress, so that we can do something to have more
> members who are informed and involved. I would like to point reply of R
> Srikanth. There are many such folks on the list, beyond it on various wikis
> in the "silent contributors" category who do not like to be a chapter
> member and this could be one of the reason. Instead of reaching to events
> and getting membership and at some stage tell the world chapter is X
> members strong, Chapter must put in more efforts in getting more members of
> community as its members and this thread can very well be a start.
>
> Having said that, when our founding members drafted the MoA, the chapter
>> membership was made open to any Indian who is above the 18 years of age. We
>> didn't want to say No to anyone who is coming forward to join the chapter.
>> We wanted it to be open and inclusive, we wanted to set no barriers for
>> anyone to join, anyone who is genuinely interested and enthusiastic , just
>> like in Wikipedia
>
>
> It is one thing to say "No to anyone who is interested" / but barriers
> to join, another thing to give out forms, ask them to fill up and canvass
> its just 100 Rs saying you can be chapter member without letting them know
> what it is.
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
>
>
>
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