Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:18:46 +0530 From: yannfo(a)gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) Hello, Yes, it would probably help a lot. Regards, Yann _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 18:24, <wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com> wrote: IIRC both of them lie outside the "content" boundary and wouldn't be helping. I dont recollect reading anything like "protecting interests of wikipedians" on the chapter's mission / vision. Form a political party (since asking the current ones might not help!) and fight for it, else sit at home and edit non controversial stuff like "Brinjal" :P

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The question whether the Chapter will help someone if they get into some sort of trouble with the authorities is an important one and should be addressed.  Once a letter of authority is issued to a volunteer, the chapter's reputation and credibility is on the line.  Therefore, the chapter must endeavor to only approve those members who have a substantial amount of history with our projects and their mission. In such a scenario, I would expect the chapter to extend help to those it endorses. anirudh (personal opinion) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to "only trusted Wikimedians" with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 &lt;de10011(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill <http://communicall.wordpress.com> _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Agree with Srikanth, as I can't join the chapter because I'm underage. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:49:39 -0800 From: parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians) I agree with fae about the entire issue. Last week, there was an Academy in Coimbatore at the Amrita University where I was denied entry as my ID card didn't state Wikipedia. For Commons, this may not be of much use. Most Police men chase us away for pulling out a Camera in Public. However, I do not see this reaching non members of the chapter, especially the under age ones like Vibhijain, or others. Re, On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Vickram Crishna &lt;vvcrishna(a)radiophony.com wrote: Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 &lt;de10011(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Great suggestion Fae. As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have any jurisdiction over. I remember a couple of years ago, Wikinews tried this for their active editors, offering to print them 'official reporter' IDs. It was an idea at the time, and I'm not sure if they actually implemented it or not. For photographers, this would be the commons community. This shouldn't be too hard, I suggest someone mentioning the political situation and suggesting this for commons photographers in the VP. The great thing is since, it would be the community who would award it, there is little or no direct liability to an official body. There should however be a contribution record or an endorsement from someone to print these out. One thing the chapter can do however, is offer a special member/photographers ID to the existing members. This could be at a surcharge so they don't undertake any expense- they can print out plastic IDs with photos, and membership detail of the existing members. This ID might be able to suffice for the purpose. I don't think that the card should necessarily be printed at a centralised location. In fact, I don't even think this is desirable (from security and logistics viewpoints). It should be fairly simple to 'approve' a request for accreditation (framework discussed already), then lead to a web-based one-time card generator that the user can print and laminate herself. In case of problems printing, the user should have a fallback option to report the failure, in order to enable a second attempt for the card to be printed. Regards Theo On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 PM, CherianTinu Abraham &lt;tinucherian(a)gmail.com wrote: The chapter can officially decide it only after a discussion within Board , SIG leadership and the members. But on a personal level, I agree with Anirudh's view on this. Since it brings strong accountability for the chapter on the use of the ID by the recipients , this has to be done with caution and utmost care. May be we can set up an empowered committee to review such requests and grant them. ( just a suggestion) Nevertheless, IMHO, such id cards should be issued to "only trusted Wikimedians" with a substantial amount of history with our projects and mission. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ashwin Baindur &lt;ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com wrote: We do need a Chapter EC Board member to respond to this. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati &lt;anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Anirudh Bhati &lt;anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan &lt;srik.lak(a)gmail.com >> >> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. 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Excellent Suggestion Praveen, +1. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:23 PM, praveenp &lt;me.praveen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l