Hi Bodhi
Just curious to know what is the meaning of non bot edit. ? Will the semi
automatted edits come under non bot or bot edits ? Also the automated edits
using different applications done under a non bot account will it come
under non bot edit or bot edit ?
Regards,
J.Balaji.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 10:56 AM Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Just saying... tens of thousands of edits seems far
too large a number
for a person to qualify for membership of your EC. Gives substance for
the argument of number of edits being used to exclude people by
drastically reducing the number of people qualified. Arguments about
"process" accepted by a community does not hold water. Much more
logical would have been a fairly large number so that EC members are
experienced but not so large that people can be kept out on that
pretext, such as 3000 to 5000 range. Ten thousand image uploads to
Commons is rubbish. Hardly anyone can put up a thousand images or more
which are of encyclopedic value. Commons is not meant to be a place
where thousands of images are dumped without reference to quality,
utility, educational value etc.
I don't edit on Bn WP and my User name is AshLin. I applaud good work
done by individual editors of Bengali community and in some cases by
the community as a whole. But I am just being frank here in telling it
like it is.
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 2:06 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal
<bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Samir,
Although your mail had baseless allegations against the user group
without any
references, but anyway, thanks for your reply. Please note
that, this is not an official reply from the user group, as the
representative committee, which is to be formed in very near future, may
consider to respond officially, if needed at all. This is my completely
personal reply as I have started the thread to inform the larger community.
> The content of the bylaws are very disturbing. It sees like a executive
club
purposely made to leave some people leave. The Wikipedia culture is
quite open and this kind of policies is made by some people nd passed in a
small amount of window gives only bad vibes to the other Wiki community.
Accept my Condolences to all people who got thrown out of the user group
because some people decided to make all about "number of edits". As if
that is the only thing a member can contribute towards progress of
Wikimedia.
If you have read the bylaws carefully, you can see that the user group
is open to
all Wikimedia account holders, who can become General members
just by signing up. No one is thrown out as you say. To become a
representative of the user group, a general member needs to pass some
criteria, which was set up after community consultation, because
representing user group in a forum is a serious affair. The user group
decided to take account of online editing for representative membership,
because a person who edits and work online with the community closely
understands the issues and dynamics of the community better than who
doesn't. No one objected to that when that article was raised for
discussion. Byt the way, what is the executive club anyway? Never heard of
it.
>
> Even sad is people are congratulating instead of expressing concerns
over the
type of bullying done openly to Wikimedians of West Bengal. I am
happy thati left its nd I not there in it animore
Can you please refer where the bullying was done to Wikimedians of West
Bengal
regarding the bylaws, where everyone congratulated in stead of
expressing concerns? We had opened up the draft for community consultation
for one month (see talk page) and had online meetups for general members. I
cant remember any bullying in any discussion. I remember each and every
user who participated in the discussions, but there was no user named Samir
or likewise. Maybe I am having some memory loss again and others can help
me remember better.
Sorry to hear that you are not there anymore, but you are not where? Can
you
please specify. I have just checked the history of the general members,
couldn't find anyone with user name Samir. May be you have a different user
name, but that I don't know.
>
> It is to say that the editors working in wiki data are not having any
knolej.
And other of them are disqalified. This is nothing more than
hitlership and if they are going in this way, the User Group, then I am sad
for everyone who have to go through this harassment.
Where did you learn that the user group stated that the editors working
in
Wikidata have no knowledge? Please cite that. Do you even know that one
of the main arena of work of the user group is to improve Wikidata entries
of different aspects of West Bengal. If you don't know that, consider
checking Wikidata:WikiProject West Bengal. Anyway, please keep your false
assumptions with you.
> "Ache din aayenge", I guess inisited of goin further, we are only going
in back.
The bylaw was passed after community consultation and with full
agreement with the
general members who attended the meetup regarding the
bylaw. Although you didn't take time to discuss when it was being done, but
still If you have any recommendation or suggestion or grievances, you are
always welcome to suggest that in the talk page of the bylaw, so that
maybe, Representative Committee can consider them, in future to move the
user group forward.
Your mail had baseless allegations against user group without any
references. Next
time, please at least find some references and at least
provide your user name, so that everyone can understand your contribution
and motive. Otherwise dont expect a reply.
Regards
Bodhisattwa
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