Hey,FYI I think there is no need of individual article for Tryst. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Education_in_India#… Ratnakar | kondi Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:42:43 -0700 From: hideeponhere(a)gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report: Wiki workshop @ IIT Delhi I too think we should conc. more on quality than quantity. If we get 4/5 interested students from a session (be it only 5% or 10%) then we should take good care to support them & keep them motivated.. Good point..:-) Deepon On Mar 12, 2012 11:04 PM, "Nitika" <ntandon(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: Hi Folks, Kritharth is a student at IIT and has been actively involved in Wikipedia monthly meet-ups in Delhi. It was through him that we got in touch with the organisers at Tryst - annual tech fest organized by IIT-Delhi. I'd really like to thank him for helping us organise this session and a big thank you to Noopur, Rajesh and Piyush for all their help. Two Wikipedia sessions were conducted at IIT Delhi during their tech fest Tryst 2012. The underlying idea was to explain the basics of Wikipedia, 5 Pillars, few policies, anatomy of an article and provide some hands-on training on basic Wikipedia editing. Two sessions were conducted in a slight different manner since we wanted to test effectiveness of different methods. My mail will explain different approaches that were adopted for each of these sessions and outcomes of the same. First session on March 3rd, Saturday: About 50 attendees participated in a 3 hour long session. There were IIT students, students from other engineering colleges in NCR and some working fellows amongst the participants. User:Hisham started the session by introducing Wikipedia, who edits Wikipedia, 5 pillars, few Wikipedia policies. We then moved on to actual hands on editing and taught them basic Wikipedia editing. Some students raised really intelligent questions about referencing and NPOV. Though, we noticed that a lot of students lost interest and focus when we spoke about Wikipedia Policies in detail which took over half an hour. During the session we demonstrated by editing articles on Tryst - IIT Delhi and IIT Delhi. Just the fact that the participants willingly sat through such a long session and had several questions shows their genuine interest in learning more about Wikipedia. About 6 students (12%) created their usernames after the session and 2 (4%) have attempted to make minor edits after the session. A big thank you to User:Piyush.Aggarwal and User:RajeshPandey for all their help and support. Second session on March 5th, Monday:There were about 40 participants. Once again, there was mix of IIT and non-IIT students. We organised the session a bit differently - after giving a brief introduction about Wikipedia and showing some basic editing we invited the uninterested participants to feel free to leave the session and requested only the interested lot to stay back for the remaining session. The participants were informed that in the second half of the session we'll be talking in greater detail about Wikipedia policies and do more hands-on editing training hence it made sense only for those students to stay back who'd like to get deeper knowledge about Wikipedia. Eventually we were left with 8 participants but in my opinion that's was the beginning point of a more interactive and interesting session. Each of these 8 participants were more involved when discussing about Wikipedia policies, they wanted to do more hands on editing and we were also able to provide them individual attention because of limited numbers. During the session we edited the article on Chacha Chowdhary and one of the participants started an article on tunde ke kabab. 11 participants (27.5%) created their usernames and 2 (5%) have made few edits post the session. It's great that we're able to get more people involved in Wikipedia activities - participants who were students outside of IIT also want to conduct similar Wikipedia sessions in their campus, 4 of the participants also joined us for the Delhi 7 meet-up. However, I want to focus on few who have shown interest in Wikipedia editing - provide them editing support and keep them motivated. I'm also thinking of a "Buddy System" to keep these interested participants going and providing them support. If you haven't already guessed what I mean by the name "Buddy System" please stay tuned, I'll soon send another mail about it - I need your ideas and thoughts (needless to say your support too :-) ThanksNitika _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com> wrote: That simply depends on whether the event passes [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:EVENT]] notability guidelines.

Oh, so that's where Tunde Ke Kabab came from! I tried to get support to bring it to DYK, but didn't have time after that. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

Hisham, Very nicely put. Just a question: Do people who organise outreach events, use a little Humour in your talking? IT helps greatly in keeping people interested. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

On Mar 13, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: Considering that Shiju is trying to get support to improve the health of the community, tunde ke kabab I suspect would be ill-advised. Now on the other hand, if you had asked for brinjals... Shameless plug: Please click on the community health link above or on the Medical Translate page and join up. We already have 12 editors from 7 Indic languages participating - which is great. ...but we ONLY have 12 editors from 7 Indic languages!!! er, strictly speaking, salt in tunde ke kabab can't fall flat. It can either be too much or too little. in the context of tunde ke kabab, though the recipe is secret, i have tasted a hint of cloves - which could theoretically fall flat. *mailing list admin bursts a vein* On a serious note, I wanted to raise another point. English is not a first language for all of us. Not all of us are comfortable speaking in public - and that too in English. However (some) times, we feel pressured to conduct outreach in English by a college room full of guys who are chattering in English. There's nothing wrong if you choose to do outreach in our mother tongues. In fact, there is everything right in the presenter presenting in the language that he or she is most comfortable with. Bengali or Gujarati or Tamil or Punjabi or whatever is the non-English common language between the audience and the presenter. It doesn't have to be English if you're not comfortable. hisham