My home wiki is enwiki, but I'm mostly busy
on meta these days,
co-ordinating English-Hindi projects.
On 24 February 2010 17:47, Jyothis Edathoot <je(a)jyothis.net> wrote:
Srikanth,
Which wiki is your home wiki?
Regards,
Jyothis.
http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/>
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep
completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So we need to keep a patrol dedicated to watching these guys.. But
> are they still doing it? I thought Google stopped? Besides, they're like
> lightenening.. You never know when or where they're gonna strike.. :D
>
> On 24 February 2010 09:02, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse(a)yahoo.com>wrote;wrote:
>
>> In Tamil wiki too we're extremely concerned about quality. That's
>> why even GaneshBot was constrained. On this issue, we're keeping an open
>> mind and it's still in a pilot stage.
>>
>> sundar from mobile
>>
>> Jyothis Edathoot wrote:
>> > While we welcome the efforts and contributions, all wikis may not be
>> equipped with enuf active users to handle such a flood. if a flood of low
>> quality articles or translations come by, such projects may take (much)
>> longer to recover and regain the drop of quality. While quantity benefits
>> out of such a flood, that may end up compromising the quality of the wiki.
>> It may not always in th interest of the local community. Regards, Jyothis.
>> Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com > wrote: Shiju,
>> > Can't we just go ahead normally? If these Google guys make
>> mistakes, we just correct them and go on. If they resist, then explain or
>> warn them?
>> > Regards,
>> > On 23 February 2010 21:08, Shiju Alex < shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> > There should be proper co-ordination between each language
>> community and the Google. In Malayalam Wikipedia, we already tried
>> collaborative translation of some English Wiki articles 2 years back. But
>> that was a failure and we dropped that. One of the main issue with
>> word-to-word translation is that the entire article will have the sentences
>> constructed with artificial words and phrases. The reader will run away from
>> that type of articles.
>> > If there is no proper agreement between wiki community and Google
>> the community may resist. For the sake of Google translation, Wikis should
>> not not be flooded with articles. Some wikis might be interested in using
>> this service to increase the article count. But not all communities will
>> agree to that.
>> > The problem of paid translation and word-to-word translation are
>> many. Each language community might have different issues regarding
>> word-to-word translation/paid translation. Each of them need to be addressed
>> separately.
>> > So it is very important that Google agrees to the point mentioned
>> in the below mail, and there should be proper communication between Google
>> and respective language communities. Shiju
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Ravi shankar <
>> ravidreams_03(a)yahoo.com > wrote:
>> > Hi all, regarding the mail below: Sundar and I have initiated
>> contacts with Google on coordinating their article contributions.
>> > Google has agreed in principle for the demands below. We hope we can
>> update all Indian Wikis about the progress in this collaboration, say in a
>> month or two. Then it may be a good model for all Indian Wikis to follow.
>> So, it may be a good idea for all Indian Wikis to wait during this period so
>> Google need not have to do the same consensus evolving approach with many
>> wikis.
>> > Thanks, ravi
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Ravi shankar < ravidreams_03(a)yahoo.com > To:
>> wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 11:30:27 AM Subject: Coordinating
>> Google translation kit articles
>> > Hi all, Following the recent Wiki meet in Bangalore, Sundar (Tamil
>> Wikipedian) brought to our notice that Google is contributing to various
>> Indian language Wikis using Google translation kit and paid translators. In
>> Tamil Wiki, we feel a strong need to corordinate / organize this activity
>> andwe hope it is the same situation in many Indian language wikis.
>> > So, may I propose that we discuss this in this mailing list and
>> send a common notification from Indian language wikis to Google India? To
>> begin with I propose the following. Please add to the list. 1. Google should
>> appoint one coordinator each for every Indian language wiki where they
>> contribute articles. This coordinator should be available to reach by mail
>> and be adequately responsive (Say, once a week at least). He will take
>> feedback from the wiki community and pass it to the paid contributors.
>> > 2. If Googe policy allows, they should know us the time frame and
>> scale of this operation so we can plan accordingly. 3. Google should not
>> translate existing articles because they are over riding previous
>> contributions.
>> > 4. Each Wiki can submit a list of needed articles and the
>> translators can consider giving priority from them. 5. Each Wiki can draft
>> an essential Manual of Style which the translators shall follow. 6. Based on
>> the responses for above, we shall periodically re-evaluate how we can
>> continue to cooperate with Google.
>> > After we finalise the list , some one of us who has links with
>> Google India team can take this forward. Thanks, Ravi (Tamil Wiki)
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