Hello Tito,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
I have few feedback for the reply.
//C. >>If there is an agenda for this training and format of the training,
it would be good to know before bidding.
Agenda is decided after the needs-assessment of the participants. If you
have topics to suggest, please let us know. About format, let me answer in
the last part, as it is similar to "hands-on proofreading".//
If not a detailed schedule atleast some broad topics and formats need to be
determined. Because people are dedicating two days from their busy life for
this training. They should make a informed decision regarding weather the
topics are already covered in previous training ? whether it is worth to
apply for this training. Also only then we may know the difference between
previous trainings and proposed advanced training.
//D. >> What would be the criteria for selection of people to attend this
training?
Excellent question. Please feel to suggest what selection criteria should
be (number of edits, number of proofread/validated pages, recent activity).
I'll check and get back to this with more details.//
A suggestion regarding this point. since this is advance training, to
implement the learnings from the training many a times some privileges such
as interface admin, admin is required. so atleast one person of a language
of such privileges may be selected. or those who are selected be given such
privileges temporarily by the community.
//any proposal for the trainers?//
The above point is not covered in the reply
Thanks and regards,
J. Balaji.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:13 PM Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Balaji,
Thanks for your questions, let me try to answer to these.
A. >>The title for the meeting in fixed as "Wiki Advanced Training".
Already minimum one training was conducted by CIS for many of the Indic
wikisource community. How the "Wiki Advanced Training" training is going to
be different from the earlier trainings.
-- Yes, the event name is Wiki Advanced Training, where on a project is
focused every year. This year the project we are focusing on is Wikisource,
next year we have not planned or decided yet.
So far Wikisource training (zonal) has been conducted/supported by CIS-A2K
in the last one year for (in alphabetical order) Assamese, Gujarati,
Marathi, Punjabi, Sanskrit community (in Bangalore), and Tamil community.
Those have been mostly first-level or basic training. But, as "Advanced
Wiki Training": name suggests, the training should be for experienced
Wiki-librarians with advanced topics (*what advanced topics, answering in
the next points)*
B. *>>Because in many of the advance trainings people without basics also
attend and pull down the average level of the trainings. (or they won't
benefit from such trainings).*
There should be basic eligibility criteria (see D). About participants, as
mentioned earlier, yes, it is expected that the participants have both
basic Wikisource knowledge and contribution experience. One thing comes
here, does this ensure participation from all communities? I hope you
understand this point. However, it is true that Advanced Training ideally
should not have very basic topics.
Also note, we have community-selection process where a community will
discuss on village pump and select Wiki-librarians to represent their
communities.
C. >>If there is an agenda for this training and format of the training,
it would be good to know before bidding.
Agenda is decided after the needs-assessment of the participants. If you
have topics to suggest, please let us know. About format, let me answer in
the last part, as it is similar to "hands-on proofreading".
D. >> What would be the criteria for selection of people to attend this
training?
Excellent question. Please feel to suggest what selection criteria should
be (number of edits, number of proofread/validated pages, recent activity).
I'll check and get back to this with more details.
E. >> Also to few members I spoke in Tamil wikisource community felt that
instead of training a two day editathon can be conducted with experts
helping people who face problems while proofreading.
That's a format-related question. I, personally, find this idea an
interesting one. Whether it 'll be 50%, 75% or 100% of hands-on training,
it is to be decided by all the participating community members.
Abhinav,
Thanks for your comments.
>Similar to the suggestions I had raised during
TTT 2019, having a
community jury to decide on the bids would be beneficial. Also,
the idea
floated by Balaji on proposal for trainers is welcoming, this makes the
community inclusive (a community-run initiative).
-- Earlier we tried this. For Adv. Wikisource we are waiting for
communities to show interest still. Hope to see at least a couple of
interests there as of now.
Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 13:03, balaji <balajijagadesh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The title for the meeting in fixed as "Wiki Advanced Training". Already
minimum one training was conducted by CIS for many of the Indic wikisource
community. How the "Wiki Advanced Training" training is going to be
different from the earlier trainings. If there is an agenda for this
training and format of the training, it would be good to know before
bidding. Also any proposal for the trainers? What would be the criteria for
selection of people to attend this training? Because in many of the advance
trainings people without basics also attend and pull down the average level
of the trainings. (or they won't benefit from such trainings). Also to few
members I spoke in Tamil wikisource community felt that instead of training
a two day editathon can be conducted with experts helping people who face
problems while proofreading.
Regards
J. Balaji
(User:Balajijagadesh)
Note: Same was posted in meta talk page :
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:CIS-A2K/Events/Wiki_Advanced_Training/…
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:53 AM Jayanta Nath <jayantanth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
It gives us great pleasure to inform that the Wikisource Advance
Training 2019 program organised by CIS-A2K is going to be held from 11
October & 13 October 2019.
Advance Wikisource Training is a residential training program is planned
for Indic Wikisource community (including English) members. Last year we
focused on Wikipedia and conducted the Wiki Advanced Training at Ranch,
India. Also, Earlier Indic Wikisource Community Consultation has been
conducted in 2018 at Kolkata.
This year CIS-A2K is interested to collaborate with the community in
hosting the event. Interested community members, please check the following
link for proposal for hosting at their city:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CIS-A2K/Events/Wiki_Advanced_Training/2019/…
It is requested to All Indic Wiki-librarians, kindly apply your request
to join this event at your language wikisource village pump with separate
section. As per community decision, we will select the participants.
Please consider sharing this process details with your community members.
If you have any questions, please let us know.
Regards,
Jayanta Nath
Wikisource Advisor
CIS-A2K
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