There is always a way to look at happenings positively. Even falls and failures, if at all they do happen, are valuable lessons!

To me, that is the greatest lesson and principle I have learnt from editing Wikipedia itself. Wikipedia constantly compelled me to realize my own mistakes (edits) and correct. Every instance of them was a positive milestone.


On lamenting about stillborn help, just as a matter of fact and point of order:

In our small community, we are very much aware of the possible help (and our standard rights and privileges to that) from chapter or IP/foundation.

But so far,
when we need help, we do not yearn for that from higher ups.

Instead, we seek help from 'bottom downs'.

Instead of San Francisco, Delhi or Bangalore, we try, get and accomplish assistance from little kids and humble rural people.
And that we get immensely.
(And vice versa, our community members have helped the chapter  

We have been able to digitize and upsource entire volumes of ancient texts to our Wikisources and elsewhere through pleasant collaboration from primary school kids from hitherto unknown villages.

Our most successful outreach programs were conducted by infrastructural and program assistance from barely internet-powered commons.

Perhaps, the only time we have sought help or assistance from chapter / IP / WMF was when we conducted our massive outreach program (Wikisangamotsavam) a few months back. And we are very content and thankful for whatever they provided. We even did not distinguish who among them were providing.

My humble opinion: Grow your community bottom up. Grow self-reliant as far as possible. Your rights will always be reserved and accumulated for more needy and pressing occasions.

-just a bottom level community member from ml.wikipedia.org

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ravishankar <ravidreams@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

Whatever has been done through the IP, both the community and WMF are equally responsible. It is not good to attribute failure or sucess to anyone.

When some one is leaving any movement, it is basic courtesy to wish him well. By doing so, he or she will have good memories of the movement and may remain a life long ambassador for us. This is not the time to evaluate anyone's performance.


Ravi +1.