On 01/03/2013 05:11 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:
I never mentioned anything about being part of the chapter.
The chapter was set up to promote the movement in India and it has done
so even in cases where a person/participant was NOT a part of the chapter..
I merely asked what benefit the Group recieves by taking the User Group
route over the Chapter SIG route.
What are your thoughts on the Chapter-SIG model.
Can you describe this Chapter SIG route / model, or point to a URL
explaining it? The only thing I could find is
nothing about process or even group activities can be found there.
In the meantime, let me add a bit more to Noopur's argument and my
The main motivation of MediaWiki groups is unsurprisingly
- the open source software and its community
around. They can be created in Ahmedabad, San Francisco, Mexico City,
Berlin or wherever, but they share common needs, common activities,
common materials and so on.
MediaWiki Groups were born at mediawiki.org
because they were needed to
bring this open source community to the physical space. In a formal
sense they are just wiki pages with registered users signing up for
them. No non-profit creation, no formal membership... The whole identity
is based purely on activities organized.
It was a coincidence that the Wikimedia movement was about to approve
the User Groups while MediaWiki Groups were defined. We discussed with
the AffCom and we fine tuned the MediaWiki Groups requirements and
process in order to make them Wikimedia User Groups as well.
Then Harsh, Yuvi and also Sucheta showed up proposing a MediaWiki Group
India. At the end we decided that MediaWiki Groups need to be strictly
local, and that MediaWiki activities at a national level should be
better organized with the chapters, since they have already the
infrastructure for that. Then Harsh evolved the proposal to MediaWiki
Group Ahmedabad, Sucheta is already trying to gather critical mass for a
MediaWiki Group Kolkata, etc.
That's it. You can still argue that such organizations could be handled
a part of Wikimedia India SIGs, and that their promoters wouldn't be
required to be chapter members. I don't even disagree with the idea, but
in the right sequence of events: the motivation of these groups is
and therefore good alignment and coordination within the
MediaWiki community is what matters most. I have no doubt that strong
MediaWiki Groups will contribute to the strength of the Wikimedia
community and their related chapters.
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