Shiju, you and Subhashish have been volunteers but now you are paid contractors hired by the Foundation. Any work you do within the purview of your contractual relationship with the Foundation will be work as a paid contractor and cannot be deemed to be the same as a volunteer. You can continue being volunteers once your contractual assignment is complete. Is that so difficult to understand?

You are totally wrong. That is the difference between your involvement with wikimedia movement and mine. My involvement with wikimedia movement will be there even if this job is not there. So just DO NOT compare your wikimedia contribution with mine. As a volunteer I will decide which all projects I need to work. Which means I still continue to contribute to various wiki projects as a volunteer. I do not want your permission for that. Who had given you the authority to expel or exclude me from Wikimedia community?

Let me ask you a basic question. Are you with wikimedia movement for helping it or for screwing it up. I was going through the replies and your wiki contributions over the past few months. What is your intention in being with Wikimedia movement in India.

Doesn't sound all that good, does it? Coming from *Shiju*, it does spring a bit of surprise. Is this the ramification of volunteer turning into a Wikimedia employee or contractor?

I feel that this personal attack was unwarranted, does not serve any good purpose, and is rude. An apology is due, counting that people employed by the 'India program trust' hold truly responsible posts.

The question about 'who's done what? or who's doing what?' is very important in the present scenario as the Wikimedia India Programs trust is well funded, has full time phenomenally well paid operatives who's primary focus is supposed to 'Support the community to further Movement objectives'. Being rude or evading detailed reports isn't helping this in any way.

And just saying "we supported" isn't going to help either. Explaining the trust's role in each of the listed activities would surely help people from this country when they're planning to donate during the next fundraiser as well. When we get to see announcements doled out to multiple mailing lists like spam, I don't see why detailed reports should be an hindrance?

I had personally brought up the concerns about the 'India Program Trust' in an email to foundation-l way back in November:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-November/070419.html

and it is deeply saddening there wasn't even a response to that by Hisham or his team. Is this how the community is being dealt with?