Jyotis,

The proposal needs further discussion.
I'm fine to have it on meta, but, I'm sure all the discussions currently on wikimedia.in will be preserved when it is eventually hosted on Wikimedia servers. But, I leave it to you and other members.

- Sundar
 
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From: Jyothis Edathoot <je@jyothis.net>
To: Wikimedia India list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 4:45:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Moderation policy on WikimediaIndia-l

Sundar,

Having a house of representative system will help managing things better. You are looking a great number of projects and people - if everything goes well - in the general body, and it would be absolutely chaotic when it comes to discussions. 99% you will not see most people for doing something and will have more action thrillers afterwards. It will be as problematic on management of the chapter. Administrative council can act as the advisory board for the EC and they can be the main link between communities for day to day things and will ensure the community participation going forward. This also adds accountability and transparency between chapter and communities.

Since wikimedia.in is hosted on some ones private hosting and thoughts are going around about moving to foundation's hosting, I would rather open this in meta. What do you say?

Regards,
Jyothis.

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On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:55 AM, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jyotis,

(This is my personal view.)

I concur with the broad idea behind points 3-7 though specifics need to be
worked out to suit the legal entity that the chapter is.
In fact, some of these have been addressed in the MoA, I think.
However, what is the additional role that you envisage for the administrative
council given that a general body of members exists?
Also, I suggest that a separate page be opened in wikimedia.in wiki to discuss
this.

- Sundar

>Some thoughts around this:
>    1. Local Representation:All local wikis should elect a respected member of
>their community for a period of a year (or two) and form an administrative
>council for the chapter. This could be per language basis or per project basis,

>based on their community size. I would not exclude English, but would limit the

>participation to one member in council. for the rest of projects - It could be
>probably like for every project that has more than 50 (this is just a number, we
>
>can look at the real world situations) active people (not including bots) - we
>can allocate one member per project to the council. other wise, one member per
>language projects would be enuf. this is just to ensure that we have enuf
>coverage per project and per language depending on the size of people.
>    2. Formation of EC: From the administrative council, the EC can be elected
>in
>
>for a term. This election should be by the chapter members / local language
>wikimedians.
>    3. Limit on Term in EC: It may also be worth enforcing that no project gets

>more than one (or at the most 2) consecutive term in EC (if we have enuf
>representations to fill in all slots). This will ensure that all projects gets
>it share of EC terms over the years.
>    4. Communication: A Monthly or quarterly report of the chapter activities
>should be published by the EC and admin council.  Individual representatives are
>
>and should be responsible for communication between chapter and projects. Should
>
>there be a reason to replace the member by the local community, such a provision
>
>should be provided.
>    5. Removal of member: Inactivity and lose of trust by the general public
>should
>
>be considered as a reason for removal as usual. On the other hand, if the rest
>of the administrative council members feels against one member, chapter should
>be able to request for replacement citing proper reasons for it.
>    6. Funds and Grants: All funds and grants from chapter account probably can
>be
>
>openly discussed and approved on the foundation wiki or meta wiki (like the
>foundation grant process)
>    7. Audit and Annual report: End of every financial year, an audit committee
>for
>
>the financial and functional aspects of the chapter's actions should be formed
>from the administrative council and audit results should be made public along
>with the annual reports.
>We can go on like this, but I would leave it open to further discussions.

 "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture