In reply to your comment "I would like to see few bot created stub article in any Indian language Wikipedia, later enhanced by IPs or new users"
this article was edited by 100 of times per its history and it got enlarged to 32kb from 1kb. you can see all article in this category grew from their stubs.
That's why hindi wiki supports Jimmy Wales statement of creation of stub articles.
Thank youand Regards
Mayur
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:31 PM, mayur
<mayurdce@gmail.com> wrote:
In Reply to your 2nd comment, We have done this after looking a detailed analysis.You can yourself check http://hi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=8 such avoided article.Most((95% or more) are vandalized articles.Thats why we banned on them because many users simply enter randomly buttons to create any article which is clearly observed in the list as shown in above link.
Thank you
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM, mayur
<mayurdce@gmail.com> wrote:
I think stub articles are not a bad idea if they contain small information bcoz atleast they contain some infomation, every article starts from a small version, and also if anybody interested in reading a article in hindi he may also come through it by en wiki inter links or Now a days many internet users know to write in Devanagari because Google provide such kind of facility.
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Shiju Alex
<shijualexonline@gmail.com> wrote:
Jimmy Wales mentioned how stub articles on the populated places in United States drove the growth of English Wikipedia. People hailing from these places would google their hometowns and arrive at Wikipedia.
This might be true for English or European language wikipedias. But a very example to follow for Indian wiki communities.
A typical scenario.
A normal Indian user search for an article about his home town in internet (by typing in his mother language script), find an article about it in the respective language wikipedia, click the edit button, and then enhance it.
Highly improbable!!! To reach that stage, normal Indian users need to cross lot of hurdles (awareness, willingness, fonts, rendering issues, typing tools, and so on) . Very rarely, experienced wikipedians in the respective language wikipedia may enhance it. The chances of even that is very less in Indian Wikipedias. Just check this list itself. How many hyper active English language wikipedians (Indians) edited in their respective mother language wikipedia? If this is the case with experienced editors we do not to mention about non-wiki users. From last year's statistics we know the community strength of different Indian language wikipedias.
I would like to see few bot created stub article in any Indian language Wikipedia, later enhanced by IPs or new users. Increasing the article count without building the community will be very bad for any Indian Wikipedia. If we have a big community to work on the rest of the tasks after the article creation, then there is no harm in creating stub articles using bots in a systematic way. I think Tamil wikipedians had done this.
Utkarsh pointed to some others issues also in the blogpost.
Situation will change as more people become aware about the language computing tools of the respective language. But at that time if they get a wiki with articles highly disorganized, it is not going to help anyone.
Shiju
I think that were stub articles, there is nothng wrong in creating stub articles by bot.As per Jimmy wales "There’s nothing wrong with the idea of generating articles on populated places using bots. During one of his recent visits to India, Jimmy Wales mentioned how stub articles on the populated places in United States drove the growth of English Wikipedia. People hailing from these places would google their hometowns and arrive at Wikipedia. They would then start adding the missing details to these articles, becoming active contributors in the process."
That why hindi wiki had such kind of stub articles, These article were generated just before utkarsh's analysis.Unfortunately they got some error due to some bot script error. We were already aware of that.Due to some factual errors these articles were deleted instantaneously. In last 4 month hindi wiki has deleted about 20,000 such kind of stub articles per our community discussion.We have also banned creation of very short article through a abuse filter which has not allowed about 2000 article creation for last 3 months.Giving a little information about any article is not bad as it contain information but as these recently created Village article got some errors due to error in bot script and incorrect information that's why we deleted such type of articles immediately.Such kind of articles are present in many big wikis.I am happy after deleting 20,000 such kind of article hindi wiki still have 80,000 articles.We want our wiki growth in all dimensions not only in no of articles.
Thank you and Regards
Mayur
Hindi Wikipedian
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