As one intimately involved in the planning and execution of the last
WikiConference India, we need to have a cold rational thought on this
process for bidding for Wikimania, not hubris.
Without prejudice to User:Vibhijain, a bid from Delhi cannot be made
unilaterally by an under-age editor who is not in a position to
execute any of the responsible roles. There should be a requirement
for each bidding city community to show support and backing. Otherwise
the bid should be thrown out.
That Delhi has editors is without question, the real question is does
Delhi have a strong and united wikicommunity which will be able to
take on this kind of huge commitment? There are few signs of such an
established community, not withstanding lot of relatively new editors
such as Noopur taking up new activities to do which hopefully will
lead to a strong and vibrant community in the future.
For the reasons mentioned above, the Delhi bid should be re-examined
in all seriousness.
I'm not siding with Mumbai either. In my opinion, we should have a few
more WikiConferences India before we ask for Wikimania. India needs
WikiConference Indias, not to host the international community. It is
akin to the person who has not yet furnished his house or setup his
residence in a city falling over himself to invite others from
outside.
WikiConference India 2011 stretched the volunteer community of the
nation's Wikipedians and was possible due to the unflinching support
of so many others not from the city. Which is as it should be. So can
the country deal with both a WikiConference and Wikimania in the same
year? I think not. Suppose another city, say Kolkata hosted
WikiConference India, where would the funds, volunteers attention go?
I think it is a raw deal for the city hosting the WikiConference. The
amount of volunteer effort which goes into these is not funny. I think
around 5000 edits worth of effort of mine went into the Conference.
WikiConference India 2011 proved to be beyond the resources of Mumbai
wikipedians alone. If they have bid for Wikimania 2013, can they
assure the Indian wikipedian community that they can tackle this even
larger event without extensive external help when they could not
tackle the smaller?
If Indian editors are supposed to all join in loyally to support
Mumbai should it win the bid, isn't it right that Mumbai ask the
community's opinion at large first before bidding instead of taking it
for granted that Indian volunteers will pitch in when needed?
I do not grudge supporting Mumbai, I identify strongly with it and
will do whatever I can do to help those wonderful guys, but I strongly
feel that this light hearted attitude to such serious subjects in fact
takes the rest of the Indian community for granted.
My own personal take is let this opportunity go. Let us have
WikiConferences 2012 and 2013 and bid instead for Wikimania 2014 and
that year we should not have a WikiConference. 2013 is too early. The
need of the hour is building strong Indian wikipedias and communities
not hosting foreigners.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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> _______________________________________________
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since we have not one, but two bids from India, I think that is important
> to be announced here (I would rather prefer if all of you could work
> together in a single bid, but if is not possible, at least list both under
> the right section in the page)
> _____
> Béria Lima
> (351) 925 171 484
>
> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
> acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir
> esse sonho.
>
>
> On 23 January 2012 23:15, Thomas Goldammer <thogol@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I want to remind everyone to officially start a bid for the locale of
>> Wikimania 2013. All bids made so far are *unofficial* and cannot be
>> considered, as long as they are not in the list of official bids on
>> this page:
>>
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids
>>
>> The possibility to make an official bid closes at ***January 28, 23:59
>> UTC***, this is in less than five days! So hurry up if you want
>> Wikimania to happen at your place. :)
>>
>> Note that you then have two more months to make your actual bid (and
>> one more month to refine it). You don't need to have everything
>> completely ready by now, so don't worry. :) For now, just create the
>> bid page and list it under "Official bids". Please don't forget to
>> list your organizing team members on the bid page. (All of them should
>> enable their email function on the Meta wiki, so that we can reach all
>> of you easily.)
>>
>> On behalf of the jury
>> Thomas.
>> (User:Thogo)
>>
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