Hello Asaf,
Nice to hear from you. Thanks for making things clear. Kudos to your point
on balancing between quality of content and welcoming new Wikipedians. I
don't think that they are contradicting tasks. In long run, developing an
environment where experienced editors will step in and help newbies
understand how to contribute quality content that sticks to the core
content policies is, ideally, something that we need to work on. Hope we
will find another platform/thread to discuss such steps.
Bye for now.
Thanks & Regards,
Pavan.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:45 PM Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
More explicitly: Wikipedia communities are
self-governing. This means
this mailing list has no particular ability to regulate behavior on the
Kannada or Tulu Wikipedias. It is to your fellow community members on
those wikis that you should complain about the newbie-biter's behavior.
Those communities should step up and stop the newbie-biting if they are
interested in welcoming newcomers and seeing their community grow.
(Remind people -- on-wiki -- that avoiding newbie-biting *does not* equal
compromising on quality; it's just a better attitude to showing newcomers
their mistakes or where (and how!) an article can be improved.)
Cheers,
A.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:31 AM pavan santhosh <pavansanthosh.s(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hey Dhanalakshmi KT,
This is worth discussing in WP:Village pump as Ashwin sir suggested. I
believe discussions in Tulu and Kannada Wikipedia helps to resolve issue
better.
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:45 PM Dhanalakshmi K. T. <lakshmikt96(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
We are all aware of Newbie biting. One editor by User name Lokesha
kunchadka
<https://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B8%E0%B2%A6%E0%B2%B8%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AF:Lokesha_kunchadka>
who
is indulging in Newbie biting in Kannada and Tulu Wikipedias from almost
last 2-3 months. He was issued a warning by the admin in Kannada Wikipedia,
link is here
<https://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B8%E0%B2%A6%E0%B2%B8%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AF%E0%B2%B0_%E0%B2%9A%E0%B2%B0%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%9A%E0%B3%86%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%81%E0%B2%9F:Lokesha_kunchadka#Newbie_biting>
.
I have been conducting Diversity Editathons from last 3 months. One of
the major aims of these editathons is to bring more women editors. Before
the new editor completes the article this person jumps in and adds
templates to imply the article is not of good quality. The new editors,
especially the women editors, are scared to continue editing because of
this newbie biting. Apart from this I had written an article on 13th
October 2019 with the template Under constriction for which he commented
saying there is no such topic. I was planning to complete the article with
reference to the title today.
I would like to hear suggestions from experienced people on how do deal
with this kind of situation.
Regards,
Dhanalakshmi K T
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