Hi krishna

If my memory serves me right, Wikiconference India 2016 had a budget around 33lakh INR. I haven't read the grant report yet, nor have I done a comparison with the 2016 event.. But according to your previous email, is having an event more than twice the budget of 2016 one, to almost 71lakh Rs.. Is it really justified..

If yes.. What are you planning which is different from last times conference?

Regards, 
Yohann 

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 2:58 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bodhi,

Firstly, speaking of "1 crore 60 lakhs rupees" together might not be the best way to look at it. I am not wrong, I am assuming that you are talking about WikiWomen Camp, which is also happening in India. But that is completely unrelated to WikiConference India, I mean in terns of budget, goals and objectives. You might want to separately comment on each of them, if you want to. To clarify the confusion for others, WikiConference India's budget is ₹7,181,212.50 + additional fiscal sponsorship charge of ₹718,121.25 (10% of the budget). The former amount is that which goes into the spending of the conference.

An amount could be spent on several other smaller projects, but every type of program has its own importance. In terms of impact, a conference may not have tangible or numerical metrics to be considered, but it does have impact on communities and India as a whole. Even for this conference, we are trying to make the goals as objective as possible. Components of the conference such as content creation campaign beforehand, and a Mini-Hackathon, will try to ensure that. Also since Capacity development emerged out as the most required need of the hour from the Community Engagement Survey, we have specific evaluation measures to see if it really helped people.

You are most welcome to take your comments on regarding specific budget items or the plan on the talk page, and it can be taken forward from there.

Regards,
KC

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:12 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Krishna, 

Sorry to say, but as a volunteer, I can not find justification of spending 1 crore 60 lakhs rupees on just two conferences happening one after another. The amount is  huge and beyond my imagination.

As a volunteer coming from West Bengal community which have always worked on optimal budget and respected donation money, and yet delivered consistent results through impactful projects each year, I find these expenditure out of proportion. This money could have been otherwise spent on several high impact projects for many years. 

I cannot say on behalf of my entire community but, personally, from my part, I cannot endorse this. Also, I guess, endorsement or opposition doesn't matter nowadays and these proposals will eventually get approved, in that case, I will not participate in the events in any capacity.

Sorry, if I sound too harsh, but that's only because English is not my native language. I could have better expressed in my mother tongue.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
(totally as a Wikimedia volunteer)



On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, 11:14 Dr. Manavpreet Kaur, <dr.manavpreetkaur@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi

Great initiative. It's been 4 years since we all met and shared experiences. This conference will also help us plan our future initiatives.

Best wishes!
Manav

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020, 08:41 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, <kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I am happy to inform you we have submitted the Conference & Event Grant proposal for WikiConference India 2020[1] to the Wikimedia Foundation. I kindly request all the community members to go through the proposal -- including the community engagement survey report, program plan, venue and logistics, participation and scholarships, and the budget + FAQs[2], and provide us with your suggestions/comments on the talk page[3] (also do read the FAQs section before making any comments related to the budget). You can endorse the proposal at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference/WikiConference_India_2020#Endorsements[4], please do add a rationale for endorsing this project.

According to the timeline of Conference and Event Grants program, community can review from 3 February to 14 February 2020, post that we will start integrating all the received feedback to make modifications to the proposal. Depending on the response of community members, an IRC may be hosted next week, especially if there are many questions/concerns that need to be addressed.

Let me know if you any questions.

Regards,
User:KCVelaga

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