The point I made and the point that I make again. You did not ask, you do not know and you consider your opinion to be of paramount importance. In stead of asking you go from a fixed point of view that are limited and denounce a plan because everything has to be done elsewhere first to be relevant/realistic.

Let me tell you how I see India. It is frighteningly big. It has a bewildering amount of angles, viewpoints, possibilities and potential. To realise the potential for the possibilities that exist in India, experiments are in order and they do happen. They happen because the scale is so huge. The Netherlands were I come from is small by comparison and in many ways better developed. That does not matter much because India has the potential to become as advanced and developed in the areas that I care for really quickly.

What dreams do you have in relation to Wikidata. What potential do you see. How do you realise such dreams. My dreams and how I see them come together are and is documented on my blog. You can see it in the work I do. 

Now Ravi what scares you or, can you see a future where we work and dream together and "share the sum of the knowledge that is available to us" with everyone.

PS you may know that I was disheartened when I heard that the WMIN budget was denied for the reasons given. It sucks. However, there is no point to introduce this here. WMIN and CIS have their own budgets and their own responsibilities. When the two find it in themselves to work together they get more done. More done for the people in India, That is the one thing that is important.

On 23 April 2014 20:46, Ravishankar <ravidreams@gmail.com> wrote:
100s of Wikimedia projects, including many in India, didn't need any kind of intervention.

//I gave a presentation to professionals who work in data. It took me an hour to set up the environment with them and for them so that they could start.. We had a meeting for three hours and we scratched the surface enough to make a difference. The fact that we were together ensured good faith and enough understanding.//

Are they Wikimedians? It is enough if Wikimedians can make sense of it.

If Wikimedians are not able to make sense of it, then we need to improve Wiki Data for the global community too.

//I have seen some of the agenda and if only a fifth of what is started pays of it is well worth the investment.//

Is it?


talks about reducing focus on events.

WMIN's FDC proposal was heavily criticized for a focus on events and its impact was questioned.

And yet, we have an event for Wiki Data with a proposed budget as follows:


This is 29.7% of the annual budget of WMIN !

To give a context this is almost 40% of the 2011 Wikimedia India conference !!

The single biggest expense in this Wiki Data Marathon program is the cost for resource person which is 4,50,000 INR.

So much cost for a resource person for a month hints that this could be someone visiting India from abroad.

Any idea who this is ? :)

Even University faculties don't understand Wikipedia editor and our markup.

So, what do we do? Run marathons like this for all Wikipedia projects?

//Just consider what a challenge it is to bring Wikidata to India in a way where it actually makes a difference.//

Please provide evidence that this is an India specific problem. When communities don't even get the decade long Wikipedia project, it is only expected that they won't get Wiki Data too.

How good is Wiki Data adoption in similar parts of the word and how do you address it?



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