Adding "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" on the Wikipedia article is vandalism 

Addling "verifiable facts" is acceptable ( including controversies and criticism" 

Hope I clarified the difference.

Tinu Cherian 

P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" , if you can provide/prove that with "Verifiable references" from "Reliable Sources" :)

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna <> wrote:
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. 

Is reporting the fact that major websites like and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <> wrote:
On a related note, this has appeared on The Economic Times :

" Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet"

"Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. 

3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like "Kapil Sibal", which have been locked due to vandalism!). 

If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it. "

Tinu Cherian 

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <> wrote:
This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will
hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook.

On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan <> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala <> wrote:
>> fyi
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:        Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to
>> Censor
>> social
>> Date:   Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530
>> From:   Achal Prabhala <>
>> To:     Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <
> I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to be of
> the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is
> proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and connecting the
> two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his
> support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every byte
> of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2
> different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be discussed with
> its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means much
> more than images.
> If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think Wikimedia
> projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media sites
> cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that goes
> to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions and
> some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go.
> Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so much work
> to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community if
> such a thing happens.
> There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to submit
> to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation does
> not arise for us to take those tough calls.
> PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has high
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L

Sent from my mobile device

Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.

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