On May 1, 2014 6:32 PM, "arun vm" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Why not wikimeedia cant grow without forighn funds.
Its foreign fund until you see yourself alienated from the movement. You see it as community fund if you feel you are part of the movement.
I see that Ravi and others are worried that funding from WMF is not producing or will not produce adequate results when given in opaque manner to NGO , which gives out minutes of meeting after 2 and half months . The supposedly not for profit NGO is giving its justification for having people on pay roll with disproportionately high salaries . Lets wait for FDC. Jumping into conclusions or sweeping statements won't help any one .
> technichal platforms are developed+code is gnu licenced
> And all most all contents in web is licenced under creative commons
> licence. and in india we have 110 millions of population.So many
> indians are trained in global standards.
> I thinks this is a time to think a complete indian wiki.
What do you want to do in a complete Indian Wikipedia ? Write about India ! ?
Wikipedia as I know is a global movement. Please don't allow petty interests to be in way of movements .
> This is what i felt that's all.
> On 4/30/14, Kevin Gorman <email@example.com> wrote:
> > I would equally suggest that trying to cut off or limit the flow of funds
> > to the movement because you're upset that someone is being overpaid is
> > putting your personal interest above the movement's interest. I mean, if
> > you were literally successful in your stated goal, the movement would no
> > longer *exist*. I'm sure the FDC will take relevant factors in to
> > consideration when looking at CIS's request, there's no need for hyperbolic
> > calls to start a donation boycott. If this were truly just about
> > profligate spending, there's probably a hundred things in the Wikimedia
> > movement you could latch on to that are more outrageous.
> > ---
> > Kevin Gorman
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Ravishankar <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >> Kevin,
> >> It isn't about the exact numbers and percentages. It is about integrity.
> >> You accept that you are getting over paid and yet you won't fix it, then
> >> it is putting your personal interest above the movement's interest.
> >> You call yourself a non-proft and yet you pay a salary that is far above
> >> for-proft standards.
> >> And when we ask for results or performance analysis, you say that we
> >> can't
> >> measure that yet.
> >> CIS acknowledges that it is over paying its
> >> staff<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q19>disproportionate
> >> to industry standards and their own institution's salary
> >> structure. Yet, 51.26% of their
> >> budget<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Budget#Budget_as_per_Expenditure_Heads>goes
> >> to payments towards full time staff, resource persons and consultants
> >> (line items 1, 7 and 11.2). This is against the guidelines issued to the
> >> FDC<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-04-18#Guidance_for_the_FDC>on
> >> rising cost of institutionalization.
> >> This inflated structure is a mistake created by WMF and it should own the
> >> responsibility of fixing it.
> >> Just because movement funds are available in plenty, you don't go around
> >> wasting it.
> >> Ravi
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