Can't we just go ahead normally? If these Google guys make mistakes, we just
correct them and go on. If they resist, then explain or warn them?
On 23 February 2010 21:08, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There should be proper co-ordination between each
language community and
In Malayalam Wikipedia, we already tried collaborative translation of some
English Wiki articles 2 years back. But that was a failure and we dropped
that. One of the main issue with word-to-word translation is that the entire
article will have the sentences constructed with artificial words and
phrases. The reader will run away from that type of articles.
If there is no proper agreement between wiki community and Google the
community may resist. For the sake of Google translation, Wikis should not
not be flooded with articles. Some wikis might be interested in using this
service to increase the article count. But not all communities will agree to
The problem of paid translation and word-to-word translation are many. Each
language community might have different issues regarding word-to-word
translation/paid translation. Each of them need to be addressed separately.
So it is very important that Google agrees to the point mentioned in the
below mail, and there should be proper communication between Google and
respective language communities.
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Ravi shankar <ravidreams_03(a)yahoo.com>wrote;wrote:
regarding the mail below:
Sundar and I have initiated contacts with Google on coordinating their
Google has agreed in principle for the demands below.
We hope we can update all Indian Wikis about the progress in this
collaboration, say in a month or two. Then it may be a good model for all
Indian Wikis to follow. So, it may be a good idea for all Indian Wikis to
wait during this period so Google need not have to do the same consensus
evolving approach with many wikis.
*From:* Ravi shankar <ravidreams_03(a)yahoo.com>
*Sent:* Fri, December 25, 2009 11:30:27 AM
*Subject:* Coordinating Google translation kit articles
Following the recent Wiki meet in Bangalore, Sundar (Tamil Wikipedian)
brought to our notice that Google is contributing to various Indian language
Wikis using Google translation kit and paid translators. In Tamil Wiki, we
feel a strong need to corordinate / organize this activity andwe hope it is
the same situation in many Indian language wikis.
So, may I propose that we discuss this in this mailing list and send a
common notification from Indian language wikis to Google India? To begin
with I propose the following. Please add to the list.
1. Google should appoint one coordinator each for every Indian language
wiki where they contribute articles. This coordinator should be available to
reach by mail and be adequately responsive (Say, once a week at least). He
will take feedback from the wiki community and pass it to the paid
2. If Googe policy allows, they should know us the time frame and scale of
this operation so we can plan accordingly.
3. Google should not translate existing articles because they are over
riding previous contributions.
4. Each Wiki can submit a list of needed articles and the translators can
consider giving priority from them.
5. Each Wiki can draft an essential Manual of Style which the translators
6. Based on the responses for above, we shall periodically re-evaluate how
we can continue to cooperate with Google.
After we finalise the list , some one of us who has links with Google
India team can take this forward.
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