Hi ,

Thank you Gopala for responding and opening up options for community members to join Bangalore meeting, although may be due to this very short notice, that would be very unlikely for many of us to participate physically.

Unfortuantely your reply did not answer most of my questions. As you have said to directly contact Samir for Patiala and Delhi event, my questions are now directed to him.

Samir, I am still confused about how you planned for Patiala and Delhi which is just few hundred kilometers away, completely ignoring other parts of the country with strong communities and without letting anyone know about the event in either mailing list or village pumps. Is it WMF decision to meet only these communities or is it someone from these two communities who recommended to you, falsely portraiying that these are the only active communities in India and others are not? I am also confused after receiving Suyash and Manavpreet's message where they said they had no or little clue about these events happening in their communities!! Even the active community members weren't communicated!!!

So, I am not hopeful that any meaningful conversation will happen in the events, but may be that was the plan, who knows. I am more and more believing on this theory floating around, that rebranding is already a made decision by some people in WMF and whatever happening in the name of community conversation is just a protocol which doesn't matter to anyone.

Anyway, as most of the communities will not participate in the conversation, I expect that there will be proper documentation from now on about what's going on in these 3 events and I would also be very interested to see what Samir will report back to WMF about the conversations.

I am not sure if Samir is in this mailing list, because he is not responding at all, so I am cc-ing him.

Regards,

Manoj Kulkarni

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:52 PM Gopala Krishna A <bhat.gka666@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for your emails and comments.
Some notes:
Samir contacted CIS-A2K and CIS-A2K is directly co-ordinating the Bangalore meet that is to be taken place on 21 April 2019. Samir also asked other Wikimedians for suggestions.
For Delhi and Patiala event please contact Samir (selsharbaty@wikimedia.org).
Event page link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_in_India
CIS is also providing support for a venue in Delhi, and I am will help in the venue in Delhi.
For Bangalore meet support contact me. (gopala@cis-india.org)

Following the interesting discussion in the mailing list, we would like to invite interested Wikimedians in India to attend the Bangalore event, organised by CIS, on 21 April 2019. If you are an active Wikimedian from India, and want to join the survey, please email to gopala@cis-india.org and tito@cis-india.org (please send to both) and write in brief the topics/a few questions related to rebranding and strategy you want to discuss in the meet.

We are also in the process of arranging hangout calls for more community input. We will give updates about the online call.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:52 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:
In line with Bodhi's comments,

I feel that there are several other communities which have been left out in this consultation process. I completely understand that CIS-A2K is trying to accommodate their best to represent all the voices, but it would be even better to include the "major" communities and movement affiliates. I know it is too late to change Samir's plan, but it would be great if CIS-A2K can support representatives from certain communities to participate in-person and voice their opinion about the branding strategy. Physically participating can have much more impact than a remote call.

All Wikimedians from Northern Indian can easily come to Delhi, and South ones Bengaluru. At least, if you think 18th is too close, 21st in Bengaluru can be a good option to invite some experienced Wikimedians (say five people from communities those which haven't been consulted).

I think it is a fair decision to make.

Best,
Krishna

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gopala,

Thanks for the quick response. It would be great if it is possible for you to create a Doodle poll or similar for the online meeting.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 09:57 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka666@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Bodhi,
Thank you for the feedback. I would like to give a small update. We will arrange for an online session along with offline meet-up in Bengaluru. Date and Time - 21 April 2019, 11:00AM to 2:00 PM.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:41 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <bodhisattwa.rgkmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gopal,

Thanks for the information.

Is it possible for other user groups and communities to provide him feedback somehow? If it is not possible to change the schedule in the last moment and bring him to some other places like Kolkata, is it possible to have an online session with user group and community representatives?

If it is somehow possible, then please make it happen as West Bengal Wikimedians have definitely some concern on the branding proposal which needs to be addressed.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:29 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka666@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Wikimedians,

Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community brand and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty is visiting India to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India. Schedule will be as follows:
16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group members and other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes place at CIS office, First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New Delhi between 11 AM and 2 PM.
18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in Patiala between 11 AM and 2 PM.
21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in Bangaluru. Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 'C' cross, Domlur, 2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
Main agenda will be:
Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic direction.
Discussion and open Q&A.
Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's team and their work.
Open discussion on communications.

Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for participation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_in_India

Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

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Gopala Krishna A
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