Why would someone threaten the other when writing an email for the first time, without knowing their intention!

Yes, you threaten me, saying not to threaten when it was not a threat. As i have mentioned earlier your understanding skills are very poor, and you failed to understand the Wikimedia movement and the community in general.

I don't think that is required, everyone here is free to believe. And being a volunteer, my words are hardly taken into consideration. And I just wanted to let others know of your intentions towards the movement, an apology is not going to fix the issue here.


Ansuman




On 14 May 2014 13:25, Vishnu <visdaviva@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ansuman,

I am assuming that you are referring to our e-mail exchange during April 29 to June 26, 2013.

Firstly, it was I who brought to your notice to not threaten in my e-mail dated June 25, 2013. At which point you indicted me of threatening you.

It would be best if you could share the entire e-mail discussion for an objective assessment by any senior Wikimedian and I would tender an apology should I be at wrong.

Best,
Vishnu


On Wednesday 14 May 2014 12:45 PM, ansuman wrote:
I have had a similar experience with Vishnu when I first wrote an email (prior to the job application) to him with the concerns about A2K.

He couldn't understand my concerns, misunderstood my intention, and threaten me without seeking clarification. That day I knew of his intentions and understanding of Wikimedia movement; the reason i have been keeping track of their work plans, activities and pointing out mistakes.

He always makes such mistakes and when someone points out, he denies the allegations.

Ansuman




On 14 May 2014 12:29, Hari Prasad Nadig <hpnadig@gmail.com> wrote:
Vishnu,

What you were writing there was fairly off-topic, and quite unnecessary. And that hints of malice. In retrospect, that could have been seriously avoided.

It also dangerously undermines other community members who're willing to speak out expressing their opinion in an open discussion.

I protest and object strongly to the way it has been put forward.


On 14 May 2014 11:19, Vishnu <visdaviva@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Hari,

I seriously refute the way you are wrongly interpreting my intentions. It is never my intention nor style of work to threaten anyone, least of all a Wikimedian friend like Ravi.

I was only making a legal point that we as a movement should look into and I have very clearly stated that we should take this concern on board. I have also amply stated that my interpretation is up for correction.

Ravi, if you think, event remotely, that I am trying to threaten you, I profusely apologize. If you or the community members think that I was wrong to take the Tamil Wiki 10 celebration example to illustrate a legal point [1], apologies for that too. I was only doing it to state a point without any intention of malice or wrong doing what-so-ever.

Cheers,
Vishnu

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Staff_proposal_assessment#Additional_concern_that_should_be_taken_on_board


On Wednesday 14 May 2014 01:46 AM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
Ravi,

While I do not approve of the way this has been worded here or presented here by you, it does seem like a veiled threat clearly directed towards you by Vishnu for your speaking out (which has been quite vehement, to be honest). And an apparent threat like this coming in from a Program Director does look very ugly.

The worst thing is that it seems to be trying to distract readers from the actual issues. I sincerely hope that Vishnu shall clear this up with an appropriate step that befits his position and the respect his position merits. 

And I wish and hope these shall not happen in future.



On 14 May 2014 00:58, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Is receiving money as an individual from a foreign body in violation of the Act?
If that is so, won't half of India be violating it?

I have a copy of the Act from the Ministry of Law and Justice and it doesn't seem to say so.



On 13 May 2014 19:11, Ravishankar <ravidreams@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,

Is there a legal threat for Wikimedia community volunteers in India getting Individual engagement grants and grants for running community events from WMF?

Any professional legal / financial advise will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Ravi



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