(Reposting with minor corrections*)
Dear All,

It is very disturbing to see this kind of language for a past president of Wikimedia Foundation's India Chapter! I do not want to go into merits of stands each one are having (for the sake of argument, let's even believe that Sudhanwa sir is wrong here), but this kind of language is not our heritage is for sure!

This could have been said in a better way too without accusations (please note once we start accusing, we cannot cry foul when another person accuses us in return). I strongly condemn all these baseless accusations. I know Sudhanwa sir in person and it will take many lives for us to understand his greatness and his contribution to Wikipedia and Open Source movement! (BTW he is pioneer of FOSS activities in Pune). He is so great that I also do not know his greatness in totality. I have understood it in bits and pieces these things indirectly, because he does not tell them by his own mouth. 

This kind of thinking (pacifying) is definitely not mine and I have learned it from Mahatma Gandhi from his book titled 'My Non Violence' which can be found on this link. It is freely available  in public domain. I strongly suggest people to read.

Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,


--
Dr. Abhijeet Safai
(Election Committee Member of Wikimedia Foundation's India Chapter Elections in 2017)
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Dr. Abhijeet Safai
Certified Base SAS Programmer
SAS Certified Clinical Trials Programmer



On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 3:51 AM medhavi gandhi <medhavigandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sudhanwa, 

As the founder of The Heritage Lab, your email came across as very amusing to me. 

Allow me to elaborate -- in the "heritage labs" (gosh, I wish you would get the name right at least) - we don't "build heritage". Actually heritage refers to something we "inherit". What we do is create ways for people to access and engage with that inheritance, specifically cultural inheritance. 

I would normally pass off your response as a very typical 'troll-behaviour' one, and ignore it --  but you're a member of the Wiki community and I find it important therefore to urge you to understand terms such as post-colonial and post-independence. The post-colonial period typically begins with independence but the challenges and issues faced by India in these phases can be distinct -- post colonialism often involves addressing the specific legacies of colonialism (ones that we continue to suffer today). 

I'm usually up for a debate - but why I find your response to be typical of "Troll behaviour" is that your comment lacks any research on our work -- you simply tried to discredit us and "rant". When you use words like "seems like" -- you make it very clear that you could not be bothered enough to check the link and understand if we have at all covered ancient India / or other "thousands of years of history, culture and heritage" in other ways. If you had indeed bothered, you would probably come across some interesting stories - like one about a 2000 year old artefact clicked by a Wiki-community member during our campaign last year. 

What I find shameful about this entire exchange is that you, a Wikipedian -- who is meant to check for reliable citations before editing a Wiki page and is meant to gather information in an appropriate manner in order to spread knowledge, couldn't even cross check before writing an email to the entire list. 

I wish you better mental health and positivity this festive season. There is enough hatred in this world and we don't need more of this behaviour. 

Thanks, anyway.
Medhavi




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I am wondering what kind of heritage these people are building in heritage
labs!!

Even the theme says post colonial India!!

Looks like they have nothing to do with our history, culture, heritage of
thousands of years.

Probably, they still want to remain in the colonial India heritage. That
can't even say post independence  activities.


Shameful.
And Wikipedia is supporting it in the name of spreading knowledge!!





On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 8:22 AM Satdeep Gill <satdeepgill@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Forwarding the following message on behalf of Arunesh Varade, The
> Heritage Lab*
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The Heritage Lab <https://www.theheritagelab.in/culture-events/> is
> organizing two Wiki contests
> <https://www.theheritagelab.in/world-heritage-week-contest-monuments-museums/> in
> the month of November on the occasion of World Heritage Week and Wiki Asian
> Month.
>
> First contest is an edit-a-thon where open access content from GLAMs would
> be uploaded on Wikimedia Commons with relevant data to improve the
> accessibility of these images.
>
> The second contest is where people can share the stories of visiting
> museums. It can be a photo essay, illustration, etc. The submissions in
> this contest will be uploaded on Commons and the best entries from them
> will be rewarded.
>
> We have exciting prizes for the winners so we look forward to your active
> participation in both these events.
>
> Further, we have also opened applications for the second edition of Open
> Knowledge Fellowship
> <https://www.theheritagelab.in/open-knowledge-museums-india/> where we
> host a cohort of fellows to research and create new knowledge about Indian
> art and cultural heritage and contribute the same to Wikimedia projects.
>
> Please pass on the word to the people who would be interested in being a
> part of this.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Arunesh Varade
> on behalf of The Heritage Lab
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