Hi Rahul and Sunil,
I appreciate the quick and clear clarification.
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Matthan, Rahul:CO (BG) <
> You are right. All the internal processes for dissolution have been
> completed. A few formalities remain to be completed before the
> sub-registrar and I hope that will be done in the next couple of months. I
> understand, and our tax consultants have confirmed this, the trust has had
> no activity (financial or otherwise) or income since inception and
> consequently no audit was conducted or required.
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> On 12-May-2014, at 8:37 pm, Sunil Abraham <sunil(a)cis-india.org> wrote:
> Dear Ravi,
> Rahul Matthan of Trilegal will be able to answer you question regarding
> the dissolution of the trust. He was the second trustee and has all the
> paper work related to the trust.
> From what I know - we never opened any bank accounts or make any
> financial transactions in terms of receiving income or making payments.
> Nor did the trust hire anyone or conduct any activities. From what I
> understand you cannot audit finances if there has been no financial
> In other words, after the trust was registered - we did not do anything
> further with the trust. But Rahul can confirm this.
> Best wishes,
> On Monday 12 May 2014 07:32 PM, Ravishankar wrote:
> As one of the trustees of the Wikipedia India Programme Trust
> could you please let the Wikimedia India community know:
> * What is the current status of the trust ?
> It was declared in July 2012 that the trust will be dissolved
> * Where can we find independently audited financial statements of the
> trust as promised in the CIS blog post?
> I am copying this mail to Wikimedia India mailing list, Grants team
> staff from WMF.
2014 is the centenary year of the First World War. There are many
edit-a-thons being planned on the same -
Early this year I had become interested in learning of Indian participation
in this World War. It will be a good effort to undertake an effort to
understand Indian participation and history in this war.
Can we discuss what form our participation can take on-wiki?
How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Wikimedia India has recently submitted its latest grant report, which we
have now reviewed. It is here:
We are still awaiting some more concrete information on impact and outcomes
of some of the work (see talk page) before we approve the report and close
the grant, but I thought it might interest some community members to see,
as one additional piece of input, in the context of the other conversations
about the future of work in India.
Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
There is no restriction on eligible languages from Incubator.. All that is
needed is existence at Incubator and eligibility.
On 9 May 2014 19:25, Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure, no objections. Why don't we enable Wikidata for all incubator
> projects above a certain threshold (50 articles or so)?
> 9. mai 2014 19:24 skrev "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
>> I am at the hackathon in Zurich, Waldir who is from the Cape Verde, asked
>> if he can have Wikidata enabled for his mother tongue, Cape Verdian, kea..
>> Given that it has an ISO-630-3 and he is a native speaker, it should be
>> no problem to make it eligible and allow editing in Wikidata.
>> Languages mailing list
> Languages mailing list
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From: Stuart West <stu(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:53 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Volunteers: Audit Committee
The Wikimedia Foundation's Audit Committee is looking for community
volunteers for 2014-2015. More info in blog post at:
Wikimedia-l mailing list, <a
Regards from Mumbai,
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
As I engaged in the discussion regarding CIS grant proposal for the last
two weeks, I had this recurring theme echoed from various corners.
"India is big. India is diverse. India is unlike other countries. So,
experiments (call it innovation) need to be done".
For the love of Wiki God, may I request all the global people to stop
experiementing with India?
*People from outside have no clue of India. And the people they hire in
India have no clue of the Wikimedia movement. *
Ultimately, it has become like few blind people describing an elephant.
Heck, all the community members know it is an elephant and know it takes
time to grow an elephant. The growth of an elephant can only be on par with
the ecosystem within which it is present.
No amount of systematic intervention is going to change a donkey into an
I am tired of seeing experiments being done in naive and tiny Indic
communities and the "lessons learnt" being implemented in Brazil, Egypt and
Arab world. Be it Google or be it WMF or its avatars.
May I request that you do your experiments elsewhere for a change and
implement things that work for sure in India organically?
The reason why English Wikipedia community flourishes in India, Tamil /
Bengali / Malayalam communities do well relatively are complete socio
economic and political. No amount of intervention is going to change this
in other parts of the country. This is like providing rice bags to the poor
of the third world without fixing their primary socio political issues.
Wikipedia doesn't exist in isolation in a web ecosystem. It is the
culmination of scholarly activity of highest order that you can imagine.
When languages that are official languages of states and countries, have
two decades long web presence, have a thriving local print / visual media
and academic network have a problem growing their Wikipedias, I can't
understand what the h*ll is being done in Wikipedias that are not even out
of incubators, Wikipedias that don't even have a writing system in order.
Few years back Google dumped paid translated articles done with the aid
machine translation tools in many Indic language communities and sermoned
us that these will bring us a community. Now, WMF's programs are sermoning
us that their attempt at seeding communities will bring articles for us. I
am 100% sure that both approaches are futile.
I really miss the once thriving Indian Wiki community that organized the
world's biggest Wiki conference.
I really miss the cross-wiki activism like
I really miss the spirit of the Wiki community getting replaced by
confusions brought because of top-down paid interventions.
The only hope I have is that at least few mature communities will take
stock of the situation, stay autonomous and self-sustaining as they were
and continue to enjoy the pleasure of Wiki activity instead of getting
drowned in numbers, goals, targets and dream targets.