Thanks a ton for the translation, Sriram.
I still cannot figure out what they are referring to as the database
, supposedly told by me.
Is the reporter's name or contact information available in the link?
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Sriram <sram.bms(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not an accurate translation, but I think I've got most of it right. I
> apologize for any spelling mistakes that might have crept in :)
>
>
> Wikipedia recently celebrated its Ten Year Anniversary on Jan 15th.
> Wikipedia has shone the light of knowledge on the masses for a decade now.
> This online encyclopedia stands apart from the rest all over the world for
> several reasons.
>
> Wikipedia is the result of the combined efforts of a community.
>
> Everyone knows Wikipedia does not get revenue from Ads. This is a free
> online enclyclopedia. The user is the owner(?). He looks for information,
> adds information, corrects information and in the process enables the growth
> of the encyclopedia. Wikipedia was launched on Jan 15, 2001.
>
> Wikipedia was built using the 'wiki' technology by Jimmy Wales and Larry
> Sanger.
>
> Wikipedia is the perfect example which supports the saying " The first
> footsteps of any great revolution in the world is always small. But it grows
> exponentially(?) thereafter".
>
> Wikipedia has around 17 million articles, has 365 million readers and is
> available in 262 languages.
>
> There were more than 300 events all over the world to celebrate Wikipedia's
> 10th anniversary. It's indeed special that more than 60 of these events
> happened in India.
>
> India is the only place where Wikipedia has an office outside N. America.
> "India holds a special place for the Wikimedia foundation" says executive
> director, Sue Gardner.
>
> Wikipedia is at present available in 20 Indian languages. More than 20
> other languages like Tulu, Konkani and Mizo are in the early stages of
> development.
>
> "As part of the 10th Anniversary celebrations, the Wikimedia India chapter
> has come up with many initiatives. One of the main initiatives is creating a
> database(?) of languages like Hindi and other regional languages. We are
> also trying to reach more people through many other activities" says
> Wikimedia India Chapter's Tinu Cherian.
>
> Wikimedia's 29th branch was launched in Bangalore during the 10th
> Anniversary celebrations. There are around 100 to 200 contributors for
> Indian languages. For English it has crossed 100. Wikipedia is looking to
> increase the quality of the articles and is also trying to increase women
> participation.
>
> "The usage of internet has increased dramatically in India, mostly through
> mobile phones. We're giving special attention towards the indian market for
> this reason ” says Gardner
>
> According to several internet analysts, the number of contributors has
> declined sharply over the years. The number has come down from 54000 in
> March, 2007 to 35000 in Sept, 2010.
>
> It is difficult to imagine a future without Wikipedia. In this digital age,
> even though you have information at your fingertips, one definitely needs
> Wikipedia to corroborate it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sriram
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Prajavani : ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ: ಬಹು ಭಾಷೆ- ಬಹುಜ್ಞಾನ :" Wikipedia : Multiple
>> languages : Source of knowledge " ( Kannada)
>>
>>
>> http://beta.prajavani.net/web/include/story.php?news=485§ion=141&menuid…
>>
>>
>> Can somebody give a brief translation?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tinu Cherian
>> http://wikimedia.in/wiki/In_the_news#February_2011
>>
>>
>> N.B. Apparently I was quoted in this , but I don't remember any Prajavani
>> reporter talking to me ;)
>>
>>
>>
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It's not an accurate translation, but I think I've got most of it right. I
apologize for any spelling mistakes that might have crept in :)
Wikipedia recently celebrated its Ten Year Anniversary on Jan 15th.
Wikipedia has shone the light of knowledge on the masses for a decade now.
This online encyclopedia stands apart from the rest all over the world for
several reasons.
Wikipedia is the result of the combined efforts of a community.
Everyone knows Wikipedia does not get revenue from Ads. This is a free
online enclyclopedia. The user is the owner(?). He looks for information,
adds information, corrects information and in the process enables the growth
of the encyclopedia. Wikipedia was launched on Jan 15, 2001.
Wikipedia was built using the 'wiki' technology by Jimmy Wales and Larry
Sanger.
Wikipedia is the perfect example which supports the saying " The first
footsteps of any great revolution in the world is always small. But it grows
exponentially(?) thereafter".
Wikipedia has around 17 million articles, has 365 million readers and is
available in 262 languages.
There were more than 300 events all over the world to celebrate Wikipedia's
10th anniversary. It's indeed special that more than 60 of these events
happened in India.
India is the only place where Wikipedia has an office outside N. America.
"India holds a special place for the Wikimedia foundation" says executive
director, Sue Gardner.
Wikipedia is at present available in 20 Indian languages. More than 20 other
languages like Tulu, Konkani and Mizo are in the early stages of
development.
"As part of the 10th Anniversary celebrations, the Wikimedia India chapter
has come up with many initiatives. One of the main initiatives is creating a
database(?) of languages like Hindi and other regional languages. We are
also trying to reach more people through many other activities" says
Wikimedia India Chapter's Tinu Cherian.
Wikimedia's 29th branch was launched in Bangalore during the 10th
Anniversary celebrations. There are around 100 to 200 contributors for
Indian languages. For English it has crossed 100. Wikipedia is looking to
increase the quality of the articles and is also trying to increase women
participation.
"The usage of internet has increased dramatically in India, mostly through
mobile phones. We're giving special attention towards the indian market for
this reason ” says Gardner
According to several internet analysts, the number of contributors has
declined sharply over the years. The number has come down from 54000 in
March, 2007 to 35000 in Sept, 2010.
It is difficult to imagine a future without Wikipedia. In this digital age,
even though you have information at your fingertips, one definitely needs
Wikipedia to corroborate it.
Regards,
Sriram
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
<tinucherian(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Prajavani : ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ: ಬಹು ಭಾಷೆ- ಬಹುಜ್ಞಾನ :" Wikipedia : Multiple
> languages : Source of knowledge " ( Kannada)
>
>
> http://beta.prajavani.net/web/include/story.php?news=485§ion=141&menuid…
>
>
> Can somebody give a brief translation?
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
> http://wikimedia.in/wiki/In_the_news#February_2011
>
>
> N.B. Apparently I was quoted in this , but I don't remember any Prajavani
> reporter talking to me ;)
>
>
>
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>
>
So I was attempting to write a 2000 word piece on the history of
Wikipedia in India. Any pointers you have will be most appreciated -
historical stuff too.
Sundar pointed me to this:
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tamil_Wikipedia:_A_Case_Study
What would be helpful is some sort of chronology on the history of of
Indic language Wikipedias and Indian involvement with Wikimedia
projects.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
________
http://social.prathambooks.org/
Dear admins of WikimediaIndia-l and others connected to it,
I only noticed recently that the list description for WikimediaIndia-l
reads "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia."
Personally, I find that a bit limiting - given that it (seems) to
exclude English - which is of course an official Indian language, though
not everyone knows that.
I'd appreciate it if you considered changing the title appropriately, to
perhaps "Discussion list on Wikimedia projects in and about India" or
something to the effect. Others might have thoughts on this too (or
better title suggestions)?
Thanks,
Achal
Hi Nikhil,
You had ported an English Wikipedia for Schools to the portable ZIM
file format for distribution. However that edition consists of
articles selected for the Western milieu by SOS Children's Village
Project. It needs tweaking to be relevant to our environment. Plus, we
will need to collect equivalent sets for each Indian Language.
Probably, some wikipedias may not have equivalent inter-wikis and will
need fresh articles written for them.
I have begun listing the articles of the SOS version of Wikipedia for
Schools ( I have the torrent/html version). Once we have listed them
all, we'll customise it for India. It's begun on Wikimedia India as a
Project by me. Find it here :
http://wikimedia.in/wiki/Wikipedia_for_Schools_-_Indian_version
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Manuel Schneider
<manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 31.01.2011 19:27, schrieb Jessie Wild:
>> Although it is a couple months away, an easy way to leverage an existing
>> organizational plan would be to tack onto the Chapter's meeting in
>> Berlin at the end of March. Europe would also be a relatively central
>> meeting place for us.
>
> would be fine for me - but it should be a day _before_ the chapters
> meeting then as I am participating there as well.
>
>
> /Manuel
>
> --
> Regards
> Manuel Schneider
>
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Why did you decide to go with your own custom solution (that's what is
> implied by your message, sorry if it's not the case) instead of
>
>> contributing to Kiwix so that other projects can benefit from this all
>>
> ; aka the reader, the tools, the standard, etc.
>
Sorry if you find it offensive. I never meant it like that. We released the
CD/DVD in 2010 April. The reasons for developing Wiki2CD is documented at
http://thottingal.in/blog/2010/04/17/mlwikioncd/ and
http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/creating-malayalam-wikipedia-cd/
I agree though that schools-targeted versions should include
>
>> school-friendly content (whatever that means locally) ; that's why SOS
>>
> version is so successful.
>
That itself is the reason. English SOS version is very good. My point is,
all offline versions that are targeting the schools (including Hindi and
Marathi) should be created in the same way.
Yeah
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:44 PM, renaud gaudin <rgaudin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Malayalam wiki community has indeed tried the Kiwix solution before we
> > decided to develop our own solution. It is sad to find that still Kiwix
> is
> > not in a state where we can create the CD/DVD with out the
> developer/expert
> > support. But it is good to see that the issue with non-latin
> scripts/fonts
> > are fixed. But the article selection feature needs to be enabled for
> Kiwix
> > so that any one can create their own version of Wikipedia CD (as can be
> done
> > using Wiki2CD).
>
> I agree Kiwix should provide an easy way to create a custom selection
> and make a ZIM of it.
> It is not disabled or hidden ; everything is documented on the Kiwix
> wiki and sources are available.
> The problem is that it's difficult and painful.
> What we could do is create a tool on top of existing ones that would
> allow easy selection/zim-creation.
>
> Why did you decide to go with your own custom solution (that's what is
> implied by your message, sorry if it's not the case) instead of
> contributing to Kiwix so that other projects can benefit from this all
> ; aka the reader, the tools, the standard, etc.
>
> I find it offensive to the only spare-time developer of Kiwix that you
> reproach the lack of features but still decide to build something on
> your own.
>
> > But the point here is not the software, whether we need to provide whole
> > dump of a wiki to schools. Definitely I am not for it due to my
> experience
> > with the Malayalam Wikipedia CD.
>
> Can you elaborate ? This is very fuzzy.
> I agree though that schools-targeted versions should include
> school-friendly content (whatever that means locally) ; that's why SOS
> version is so successful.
>
> renaud
>
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Hi Jessie and All,
Thanks so much for the appreciation.
Request: I want to get an Offline edition of the Hindi, Marathi and Gujrati
Wikipedia. (Indian languages) - preferably in the .ZIM format.
I read about Malayalam / Tamil offline versions being in the works, but not
in .ZIM
Why I advocate .ZIM is that it turns wikipedia into an easily search-able
single-file E-book, hence making it so much more portable (Try moving the
other forms having 1000s of files between drives and you'll get what I'm
talking about). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Emmanuel and his
team have actually assembled the largest ebooks that mankind has ever seen.
If we give it a spin like that and give an alternate description of Kiwix as
a new kind of ebook-reader for reading very very large volumes with very low
memory footprint, then we can probably catch even more attention and we
might even witness other publishers switching to something like it.
But I digress, so back to my task..
I have no clue how we can create the .ZIM files (don't have the expertise to
see and understand the format specifications), and I understand that
Wikipedia dumps creation aren't there for anybody or else the servers would
be brought down.
So can anyone help with obtaining Hindi / other Indian languages Wikipedia?
The reason I'm asking for them is: I'm trying to take the Wikipeida For
Schools to under-resourced schools in my country and in most, it would be
much, much easier to get permission from authorities to install and spread
it if I actually gave them an Indian language wikipedia and bundled the
Wikipedia for Schools with it. In their minds, getting the indian language
one on their computers may be a much bigger novelty.
So, to hypothesize, if I handed over to a municipality in my state
(Maharashtra, India, main language is Marathi) a DVD having just "Wikipedia
For Schools", they may just keep it at the side and forget about it.
But if I gave them a DVD having the "Complete Hindi and Marathi Wikipedia,
plus Wikipedia for Schools free!" then I think that will catch more
attention. This is just hypothetical, of course, but I want to give it a
shot!
The Kiwix/ZIM Wikipedia For Schools package is about 2.7 GBs only when burnt
to DVD, so there's plenty of room for putting more stuff, even for pen
drives as we'll be using a 4GB pen drive.
------------------------------------------------
Further troubleshooting: (now moving into further exploring)
The Kiwix+Wikipedia for Schools package is a portable version of Kiwix with
the index and library file already built and stored inside the root\data
folder (size 141MB)
When I opened wikipedia_en_wp1_0.7_30000+_05_2009_beta3.zim in the same
software, it did not create the library and index for the same inside this
package; rather it is stored elsewhere on my comp and I can't find it. (I'm
on Win 7 by the way)
If I want to share other versions on Wikipedia in a ready-to-run form, I
will need to create and have the index inside the Kiwix software's folder.
Or else on every new computer there will be a lengthy indexing process which
is wasteful and might actually result in non-use by people who don't know
how to go about it.
So, how can one go about it? Making Kiwix such that any .ZIM file it opens
and indexes, the index is stored INSIDE the program folder rather than
anywhere else? Or maybe such that it does BOTH and checks one source first
and the other later?
Also, what is the command-line syntax for opening Kiwix with a particular
.ZIM file?
I want to have a package of multiple instant options, so that if someone
double-clicks on a "Wikipedia for schools" shortcut or .bat or .exe then
that opens; if someone double-clicks a "Hindi Wikipedia" then that opens,
and so forth.
Cheers,
Nikhil Sheth
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Jessie Wild <jwild(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> All - thanks so much for your work here; this is fantastic progress and
> incredibly helpful for the offline work at large.
>
>
> On 1/20/2011 11:48 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
>
>> 1. A proliferation meetup where a lot of us can get together and copy
>>> > the dump to our laptop/netbook/USB drive. 1 goes to 20... and we can
>>> > scale up the project like crazy.
>>>
>> Would be great, I'm interested in any simple Ideas/Solutions to build
>> something like a small digital kiosk where people could easily choose
>> what they want to get on their USB stick. The wireless version,
>> something like a WIFI Spot with only one Web Site could also be
>> interesting.
>>
> Having some sort of dedicated offline meet-up is something that a few of us
> have been talking about for the past month or so, so I'm glad it was brought
> up again. Logistically, when do we think this could happen? Although it is
> a couple months away, an easy way to leverage an existing organizational
> plan would be to tack onto the Chapter's meeting in Berlin at the end of
> March. Europe would also be a relatively central meeting place for us.
>
> Thoughts? Availability? Once we carve out a block of time, we can work out
> a schedule of most important things to tackle and discuss (I also have lots
> of suggestions ;).
>
>
> --
> Jessie Wild
> Special Projects Manager
> Global Development
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>