Please find the venue details for the first Kolkata Wikimeetup.
The Computer Society of India (CSI)
5, Lala Lajpat Rai Sarani (Elgin Road),
West Bengal 700020
Special thanks to Jayanta Nath for all the hardwork done in getting the
Please do spread the news .. If you know any publications / reporters in
Kolkata , kindly share the news.
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
> The first Wikimeetup @ Kolkata ( first one in eastern side of India) is
> planned for Dec 11, Saturday. We are still working out on the venue details,
> So kindly keep a watch on
> Tinu Cherian
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Wikipedians,
>> We are planning for Wikipedia Wikimeetup @ Kolkata in
>> near future. If you are from the city or can help in Wikimeetup or
>> interested to attend the same, please drop me a personal mail.
>> If you would like to see a Wikimeetup @ also in your town /city and can
>> possibly help us seting it up , feel free to contact me.
>> Tinu Cherian
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Your business card
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:00:39 +0530
From: Kiruba @ Kiruba.com <kiruba(a)kiruba.com>
To: Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta(a)gmail.com>
CC: Achal Prabhala <aprabhala(a)gmail.com>,
wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, Barry Newstead
Hi Bikasha and Achal,
These are set of old businesscards that was printed last year.
I ran out of my present bunch of cards and since I had to travel to
Lavasa for the INK conference, I had to pick my old bunch of unused
cards because my new cards got delayed from the printers.
I had consciously been striking out the position clearly on each of the
cards ( attached are two photos of the entire bunch and a closeup of one
such card) . I'm sorry that the card that your friend got missed out.
If in doubt, you can check out with others (though your friend) that I
consciously stuck it out.
I, in no way, want to create a confusion especially since our last
conversation last year. I have been consciously been clear about my
association (or the lack of) with Wikimedia India.
CEO, Business Blogging Pvt Ltd
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Bishakha Datta
<bishakhadatta(a)gmail.com <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
I'd like to suggest that you systematically and sincerely go through
all such online and offline references and undo/amend them so that
this is inaccuracy is not repeated time and again.
The same issue has already come up many times this year - dealing
with, monitoring or policing this is truly not a good use of
anyone's time or energy in the wikipedia communities, the India
chapter, or at the Foundation level.
It would be most productive if you could do a rigorous and thorough
clean up at your end and this matter could be closed once and for all.
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Achal Prabhala
<aprabhala(a)gmail.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> wrote:
A friend who is at the INK conference in Lavasa sent me this
scan of your business card; a card that you handed out yesterday.
Can you please explain to all of us why it says you are a
"Director of Wikimedia India" when as you perfectly well know -
and has been publicly documented - you have had nothing to do
with the chapter formation in India for over a year? As you
know, you were asked to leave the founding group because of your
promotion of yourself as a Director of a non-existent entity; as
you also know, Wikipedians in India were/are extremely annoyed
by your false representation.
I'm going to send out a short and clear message to
WikimediaIndia-l on the subject of your association with us.
Meanwhile, please understand that this is absolutely ridiculous
- you are wasting our time, and have done so repeatedly in the past.
We will have a talk on Wikipedia by Abhay Natu in the CMDA IT expo in Pune.
Date: 10 Dec.
time 5-6 pm.
Venue: CMDA ITExpo, Mariott hotel and convention centre, Senapati
Bapat road, Pune.
This talk is arranged at the last minute. We got this opportunity due
to un-availability of their originally decided speaker and decided for
a Wikipedia talk. Luckily Abhay is in town for the talk before he
leaves for USA.
Apart from this, we have meetups on 13th at SICSR and at RedHat on 14th.
Do join for all these talks/meetups.
A friend who is at the INK conference in Lavasa sent me this scan of
your business card; a card that you handed out yesterday.
Can you please explain to all of us why it says you are a "Director of
Wikimedia India" when as you perfectly well know - and has been publicly
documented - you have had nothing to do with the chapter formation in
India for over a year? As you know, you were asked to leave the founding
group because of your promotion of yourself as a Director of a
non-existent entity; as you also know, Wikipedians in India were/are
extremely annoyed by your false representation.
I'm going to send out a short and clear message to WikimediaIndia-l on
the subject of your association with us. Meanwhile, please understand
that this is absolutely ridiculous - you are wasting our time, and have
done so repeatedly in the past.
Achal and I spoke at a publishing conference in Delhi last month - I
had forgotten to send the presentation. I spoke about my experience
from a publishing and Pratham Books experience while Achal spoke about
Wikimedia, Wikipedia and the Commons.
"Wikipedia is a stellar example of how collaborative material is being
produced and published on the internet. Today, the idea of a knowledge
commons has gained enough ground to have meaningful consequence. The
real tragedy of the commons is that it's not being being adequately
used - in publishing at least. This is puzzling, because publishers -
especially in the "other English speaking world" - have long been
bedevilled by 'content' or 'creators' (too little) and 'costs' (too
much). Finally, we seem to have a way to do what we always wanted to
but never could. Why then are people with enormous expertise in
editing, design, marketing, distribution and packaging still wary of
this vast, growing and completely free to use repository of work? And
did we mention it's free to use?"
Slides here: http://www.slideshare.net/prathambooks/commonssense-now-like-never-before
Sorry, was travelling all of last week and neglected to upload the
presentation. (Arjuna's share was a good reminder).
It is finally up
slideshare - an adaptation of a presentation that Sue Gardner,
director, Wikimedia Foundation made earlier this year.
I also showed videos of wikipedia editors and used
animated visualization of Wikipedia's growth created by Erik
Many of you shared suggestions and presentations with me offlist. I used
these as talking points, although this is not evident from the presentation.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Dear all,
> I am speaking at the Computer Society of India's annual convention on
> Friday in Mumbai in the ienterprise track. The programme is at:
> My presentation is tentatively titled:
> Edit by Edit: Wikipedia, Indic Languages and Free Knowledge Creation
> I am working on this presentation this week, using WMF's decks which board
> members often use - and a pile of material from the newsletter (thanks
> again, all who worked on this - very very useful) and many emails that I've
> saved from this list.
> If anyone has any thoughts that you feel it is important for me to include
> in my presentation, do email me offlist.
Some updates on the Google translation project in Tamil Wikipedia.
( Refer http://bit.ly/adRtak for some background info )
The project started around August 2009 and went on continuously till August
2010 and added 1000+ articles.
During May 2010 - August 2010, we reduced adding new articles and asked the
translators to rework on their existing articles.
We did a quality review of these articles and found that only around 50% of
them has an acceptable minimum quality regarding translation ( We just rated
the style of the language and accuracy in translation. We did not do a full
review on the merit of the article).
Following this, the Tamil Wiki community arrived at the following consensus
* The translators should be rated and only the select few should be allowed
to continue ( done now )
* Only the list of topics given by the community should be translated.
Earlier Google gave a list based on most searched queries from which we
chose. ( To begin with we have now given a list of 25 featured articles from
English Wikipedia )
* New articles will be added in user namespace and will only be moved to
article namespace when it reaches acceptable quality.
* Earlier articles should be reworked again simultaneously to improve their
Google and Tamil Wikipedia collaborated intensively in order to arrive at a
process that can be followed in other Wikipedias too. We feel that we have
reached a stage where we have good pointers like above that other Wiki
communities can follow.
Since the project may be unmanageable if it grows too much, we will urge all
Indic language communities having Google translated articles to start
talking to Google without further delay.
* The Wiki communities should start a dialogue / process / agreement to
rework existing articles.
* *New articles should only be added in a rate which is suitable for the
size and activity of the community. Once all the issues are solved, then the
scale of the operation may be increased gradually.*
We still some have issues in this project and there is no final consensus
yet regarding the future of the project. But, we hope that this update