Olá a todos! Espero que este e-mail vos encontre a todos bem! Só queria dar uma rápida atualização sobre os funcionários (da WMF) relacionaods com o Brasil. Como temos falado, WMF está a trabalhar com a firma de contratação Michael Page empresa para contratar um Diretor do Programa Nacional (National Program Director) para o Brasil. A posição não foi publicado ainda, mas será em breve. Vou mandar outra atualização, assim que isto acontecer "oficialmente", só vos queria deixar a todos informados. Obrigada! Jessie _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* 2011/11/10 Jessie Wild &lt;jwild(a)wikimedia.org&gt;

2011/11/10 Everton Zanella Alvarenga &lt;everton137(a)gmail.com&gt; eu sou um alumno muito lento .... :)

Hello everyone! Position has been posted: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/RFP/Brazil_National_Program_Director Please help us in attracting the best candidates by passing this along to your networks. Best, Jessie 2011/11/11 Everton Zanella Alvarenga &lt;everton137(a)gmail.com&gt; -- *Jessie Wild Global Development, Manager Wikimedia Foundation *

Em 21 de novembro de 2011 00:20, Alexandre Hannud Abdo &lt;abdo(a)member.fsf.org&gt; escreveu: That is an interesting question. I was wondering how could we make a process of hiring a person more collaborative. For instance, suppose all candidates have to give ideas to improve Wikipedia? Wouldn't be a good idea to have all these ideas gathered and organized somewhere (a wiki? ;) to we work better on this particular problem proposed? Wikipedia is teaching us a lot about the collaborative process for creating knowledge as encyclopedia articles. Who knows we can try to extend this simple idea (besides it deals with a complex systems) to other places. Abraços, Tom

2011/11/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga &lt;everton137(a)gmail.com&gt; final rounds for candidates, we will have them do some sort of a project, and I love the idea of having this be more open to leverage ideas and thoughts. Maybe a set up like the way the board of directors application process works for Wikimedia (except, I should note, in the end without the direct voting, as there will have to be the executive decision by Sue / Barry). Thoughts? Jessie -- *Jessie Wild Global Development, Manager Wikimedia Foundation *

2011/11/21 Jessie Wild &lt;jwild(a)wikimedia.org&gt;rg>: Please don't get me wrong, but... Why weren't we consulted about this? I mean, I'm considering two things: 1) Michael Page does not understand the job and does not have the competence to recognize the right people, not even for a raw selection. 2) I am not the only one here who could have arranged a pro-bono headhunter at least as good with one or two phone calls. You don't know our country (at all, don't fool yourselves) and you don't know the resources our community has at its disposal. If we do not cooperate, you will be wasting money, resources and opportunities all the time. I have a sad feeling that if the WMF does not "get it", we'll start to have more serious and unnecessary conflicts in the future. We must stop being handled "consummated facts". I don't think this is the right way to handle things. Finally, on a funny detail, I don't think this person should have "director" in his title. It gives the wrong impression towards others and the community itself, and we Brazilians are very easily impressed. Actually, my personal opinion is that this whole Brazilian office affair is a huge mistake, but that was not even put on the table for us to discuss. Hugs, ale .:.

Ni! A wise man once said... whenever you start a message with "don't get me wrong" you raise your chances of being misinterpreted to 100% =D I should have listened. : )P But, back to matters, there were two things in my message. A) One assessment, which I still hold on to, that we are being fed consummated facts when we could be assisting in the strategic choices of the foundation's actions a lot more. This would actually be better phrased as 'whereas the foundation should be seeking our assistance a lot more'. B) One rant, in fact one last and isolated phrase in my e-mail, where I voice an indiscriminate and wrongfully exaggerated concern over the unstated fact, that we're moving towards a chapter plus office situation, which I don't currently understand. Your comments, Tom, though intermingled with A and B, only address B, making it clear it is "indiscriminate and wrongfully exaggerated". Well, my bad, but that's what rants are for ; ) However, back to A, while I do agree that we have had a lot of opening during Carol's work to discuss and provide input, the fact remains that, after she left and decisions started being announced, we had no traceable influence nor the opportunity to understand, let alone have a referendum, on why some paths were chosen over others and some actions are being given priority. We had, instead, a back-and-forth of positions regarding the office and finally a sudden announcement that in a few days a job position would be announced and sought through a specific channel with set criteria and a given scope of work. That, in this particular case, we could so obviously be doing things better together, only calls attention to a wider pattern I feel. So that's what still bothers me. Welly well droogs, I hope to have made my previous statement more understandable in face of Tom's thoughtful observations. Hugs, ale 2011/11/22 Everton Zanella Alvarenga &lt;everton137(a)gmail.com&gt;om>:

Hi Ale and all - Thanks for vocalizing your concerns. I'm glad they finally came out here in the open because I must admit they take me very much by surprise; I didn't realize these were all stirring under the surface – which indicates to me we all need a better method of transparency! So let's get started figuring that out... I want to start by apologizing profusely if anything has come across as being secretive or planned in isolation. That is most certainly NOT the intent of WMF – there is no desire to try to sneak something in around the local Brazilian community; we obviously want the same things: a prosperous Portuguese Wikipedia and growth in the Brazilian community. This can only be done in conjunction with you all, so there is no intentional effort to eliminate you from the process. It seems, though, unintentionally we have done so, so let's try to fix that. I will say like any organization, things happen about which not everyone can be aware – I'm sure you've all experienced this in your work environments before; I certainly have experienced this in WMF, Wikimedia, as well as other jobs and organizations I have been heavily involved with: sometimes thoughts/ideas/notifications go out that slip through the cracks, sometimes the act of sending out a notification slips through the cracks! I agree we should try to minimize both. In terms of communication that has gone out: the work with Michael Page was NOT suppose to be done in secret, which is why we talked about it multiple times over the past months! It was on a wiki in June[0] and October[1] and we also brought up this meeting verbally at all our meet-ups over the past months, where we also talked about it openly during Wikimania, WikiSampa8 and 10[2]. Same with the office, which I thought we were agreed upon based on the letter from the community back in August[3]. So, I guess that brings me to a point of confusion. What should we do to be more transparent? I guess things are getting missed through all these discussions and emails, and I'm not sure what else to do besides this? Suggestions would be welcome. I know language barrier is an issue for some, so as Nevio recommended: one step is making sure things are translated (thanks to Rodrigo, Beria, Tom, Castelo, Daniela, Mateus and others for doing this thus far!). There are other topics that are not addressed in this email, and I fear they are too much for one email: (1) the hiring process via Michael Page and (2) the opening of an office in general. I will expand on those things below (“Appendix”) and do want the discussion to move forward on those, but first can we tackle how to maintain transparency and strategically deciding things together, as you suggest? Thanks; and FYI – Barry is on vacation this week, and we have holidays (Thanksgiving in the US) the next few days, so we may not be as responsive as normal. Jessie PS sorry if this doesn't make much sense; I'm in an airport waiting for my last flight after 30hrs of traveling...6 more to go :) [0] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_June_2011I… admit, now looking at this, it appears a bit hidden (listed as “Office planning” and you have to scroll down to see, but we got no questions on this). [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brazil_Catalyst_Project/Agenda_October_2011 [2] See agenda: ttp://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Encontros/2011/8_e_9_de_outubro [3] see appendix for more details on this office discussion! http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimed… *** APPENDIX TOPICS :) *** 1. Re: Hiring with Michael Page We have found good success with working with professional search firms both for our positions in the US as well as abroad (India), so we engage with them – as do MANY other nonprofit firms – as a way of expanding our networks into broader areas. The executive search firm in this Brazilian case as always does NOT have final say. That is very important. What we are agreed upon with MP is that they will present a “short-list” of candidates for us, and we will take-over from there. MP does not control who is selected, and we are certainly allowed to go back to MP and say “these people are all wrong!” or the like. It is a good concern, though, about whether or not they will be able to find people that match our mission. After our first meeting with them, Barry and I were a little skeptical of this too. But after a second meeting with them they brought on a new guy (Marcelo) to head up the search, who was a lot more connected in are realms of social work, and we were a lot more confident and excited about working with them. Obviously, though, we are wanting to cast our net as wide as possible, though, and want all of your help in advertising the position and identifying excellent candidates. Most successful placements in most organizations are made by internal recommendation![1] Ok so as for the step two of the hiring: “we take over from here.” this part is much more tbd, and I am glad we are discussing it now. I love the recommendation on having a wiki where applicants put up their ideas publicly. Also, we are obviously going to have a couple rounds of interviews with panels from the WMF side of things, and WMF wanted to have some Brazilian representatives involved with that process as well. None of this is finalized yet; let's discuss and come to agreement on the best way. 1. Opening of the office Ok, I am struggling to know where to begin with this, it is so complex. This obviously isn't a new idea, it was identified in the strategic plan in 2010[2]. It was talked about openly during all Carolina's work as Tom mentioned. It was talked about it in January, June, and October when WMF came to meet-ups in Brazil. We even held a special time to talk about it in Wikimania 2011, where WMF actually decided to put the idea of starting an “office” on hold, based on that feedback at Wikimania.[3] In terms of the structure: the two positions posted (Global Ed Person and National “Director”[4]) would work completely together. If you read the job description for the “Director,” you'll see it involves a lot of other things besides just Education. It would incorporate a lot of the partnership type building that Kul and I take on at the moment, for example. So, it would for now be a two man-team. Again, these things were outlined by Carol in the plan and in the note by Barry and in all our verbal conversations. Most importantly, though, was the letter issued by the Brazilians – which stated:[5] “*Participant members of the Brazilian community decided to: Support the creation of Wikimedia Foundation office in Brazil which, as explained at the meeting, will have the goal of fostering the realization of partnerships and events with the community and the external audiences, provisionally and until the local chapter and even the local chapter have enough structure to develop such activities directly”* I think that is where I get confused, as I thought we were in agreement. So is the better process to set up a “voting” page? (note: I'm not sure that's the best (or even a good) idea, but I am suggesting for lack of a better one at the moment!) [1] citation needed :) but that seems the case in my experiences! [2] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Movement_Strategic_Plan_Summar… [3] http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nota_do_Barry [4] yes: we can reconsider the title. Please offer suggestions! [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_letter_of_agreement_between_Wikimed… 2011/11/23 Nevio &lt;nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com&gt; -- *Jessie Wild Global Development, Manager Wikimedia Foundation *

To community: Para quem está com preguiça de ler em inglês: Jessie disse que teria um novo cargo no escritório da WMF, Tom puxou o saco, e o Ale perguntou se o Page ( o cara que vai caçar o diretor para o cargo) estava sendo pago para isso. Está ( e acho que bem pago). Ai abriu-se a porta dos infernos. É muito claro o método da WMF que é bem distante do nosso, colocam dinheiro, fazem as coisas, depois falam "Ei, contratei um cara". Essa é a visão de transparência deles. A gente fez e avisou, o contrário do que vemos como modelo de transparência, temos uma ideia, a gente abre a todos e decidimos em conjunto, ou mandamos alguém fazer. :D e sempre buscando gastar o menos possível, até porque a gente é pobre. Todos esses emails circundam sobre isso. A Rossini deixou um material, que ainda só está disponível em inglês, para nortear eles, eles vão seguindo, avisando sobre o que decidiram, mas as decisões nunca esbarram na gente. Acho que é por ai Jessie, I will explain the real problem. Our vision of transparency is broader than yours. To take the next step, everyone knows who this step, and have had the opportunity to participate. what you have done, make the decision and advise later. It does not stop be transparent, but the order is incorrect in our view. ;)

Oi, (Hi,) o Névio tem uma sugestão importante. (Névio has an important suggestion). Em 24 de novembro de 2011 11:48, nevio carlos de alarcão &lt;nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: (Translation) Névio said: "My suggestion is stop this selection process of a national director and mature with the community the most appropriate format of an office in Brazil. I think that must be a support center for volunteers, coordinated by someone from Wikimedia Brasil" I think Barry and Jessie should answer to his suggestion and we, the Brazilian community, should discuss between ourselves, based upon Wikimedia Foundation proposal (which actually follow Carol's recommendations), about this job position and how it would be this "office". (Eu acho que o Barry e a Jessie devem responder essa sugestão e nós, a comuniade brasileiro, devemos discutir entre nós, em cima do que está sendo proposto pela Fundação Wikimedia (que na realidade segue as recomendações da Carol), sobre essa vaga de emprego e como seria esse "escritório".) Maybe we could set a limit day to tell them our conclusions. (Talvez deveríamos combinar um dia limite para informá-los sobre nossas conclusões.) Tom

Sugestão, mesmo a Wiki não sendo um lugar bom para fórum, é melhor que aqui. dica

Pessoal, lembro que hoje é feriado nos EUA e eles devem emendar até a segunda-feira. Nesse sentido, acho que é deselegante da nossa parte continuar com o debate e com propostas tão incisivas da forma como está. Além de provocar um desgaste desnecessário, as respostas só chegarão daqui 4 dias. Sugiro que, se necessário, iniciemos outra mensagem (tread) para a discussão e voltemos nessa com algo conciso e concreto. Que tal? Abraços, Pietro ________________________________ De: João &lt;jolorib(a)gmail.com&gt; Para: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia. &lt;wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de Novembro de 2011 13:08 Assunto: Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] National Program Director Não concordo com parar o processo. Faz falta um ponto de referência aqui no Brasil. Eles precisam nos explicar, não pedir nossa autorização. Escolher o diretor para o Brasil é prerrogativa da WMF, aprovado pelo board da fundação,acho que a Jessie até explicou demais. Fizeram duas reuniões conosco explicando isso. Mandaram um monte de emails. Eu não vou deixar de colaborar com a WMF por que o cara já não foi escolhido probono ou por que não debateu comigo antes. Ainda não perceberam que o bonde já passou? Jo Lorib pt.wikipédia.org Em 24 de novembro de 2011 12:46, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton &lt;rodrigo.argenton(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: Sugestão, mesmo a Wiki não sendo um lugar bom para fórum, é melhor que _______________________________________________ WikimediaBR-l mailing list WikimediaBR-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l

Não posso abrir a wiki onde estou, lamento mas não os acompanho * <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Jo_Lorib> Jo Lorib* pt.wikipédia.org <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio:Jo_Lorib> Em 24 de novembro de 2011 13:29, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu:

Hi, Jessie, Barry and all, I've started a topic about this job position and this office in Portuguese [1] to do not disturb you all while in vacation, as suggested by Pietro. A lot of misunderstanding was solved and I recommend Ale Abdo to read it. We do not want you all to stop the process. We are all working together with the same goals and, as we all agreed during all meeting, we want collaborate for the benefit of everybody. In my opinion, Névio has given an interesting suggestion to have this officen as a center of volunteers support, so maybe we could discuss that or other ideas. Since I've arrived late on the first day of the last meeting in São Paulo (sorry, mea culpa!) and I couldn't participate of the Sunday meeting, I've lost a lot of information about the office, which was cleared on [1]. But I believe it is still a good thing to discuss with the Brazilian community to make things as better as it can be - like to have a strategical place in the city, how it will be the space and so on. Hugs, Tom Translation to Portuguese // Traduação para o português Olá, Jessie, Barry e todos, comecei um tópico sobre essa posição de emprego e este escritório em português [1] para não incomodá-los enquanto de férias, como sugerido pelo Pietro. Vários mal-entendidos foram resolvidos e eu recomendo o Ale Abdo lê-lo. Não não queremos parar todos processo. Nos estamos trabalhando juntos e temos os mesmos objetivos e, como todos concordamos durantes todo estes encontros passados, queremos colaborar para o benefício de todos. Na minha opinião, o Névio deu uma sugestão interessante de ter esse escritório como um centro de suporte a voluntários, então talvez nós poderíamos discutir isso ou outras idéias. Como cheguei tarde no primeiro dia do último encontro em São Paulo (desculpe, mea culpa!) e não pude participar do encontro de domingo, perdi muita informação sobre o escritório, que foi clarificado para mim em [1]. Mas acredito que ainda é algo bom discutir com a comunidade brasileira para fazer as coisas tão bem quanto podem ser - como ter um local estratégico na cidade, como será o espaço e assim por diante. Abraços, Tom [1] Escritório da WMF e vaga de "diretor nacional" no Brasil https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/wikimediabr-l/xWLqWMyPAtA