I just did a bit of an interview with Rachael Brown for the ABC radio show 'PM'.
Apparently it is on twice an evening: Radio National 5.10pm, and ABC
local (774 in Melbourne) at 6.10pm.
Here's hoping it sounds OK, if someone could make a digital recording
somehow that would be ace :)
They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
Just a couple of thoughts about the planned Wikimedia Australia national
gathering/meetup/conference/whatever. I raised these ideas with Brianna
last week but repeating them here for all to see ...
Assuming the gathering is going to be (a) annual (b) roaming location wise,
one option is aligning this with linux.conf.au (LCA) if possible. Linux
Australia do this with their AGM - host it the day after LCA finishes.
1. Main reason - An overlap in our target audience (open content = open
source). Many people travel for LCA, but have a limited travel budget/time
allowance, and this would allow more to attend.
2. It takes the decision making out of our hands - less
3. If we go the full conference option - sharing publicity/resources with
4. Benefits of that particular time of year - generally warm weather
everywhere, and uni break means uni accommodation is available.
1. The LCA city is not always appropriate for a WM-AU meetup due to us being
of a smaller size. eg. Hobart, Cairns, Darwin, NZ, possibly Perth.
Workaround - we decide our own venue in those particular years.
2. I believe our AGM needs to be held between July-November. I'm not sure
how Linux Australia gets away with holding theirs in January. They may be
incorporated in a different state with different rules?
- Since the next LCA will be in Wellington, I suggest we don't change our
plans for this year - continue on with the late '09 Canberra option as
- Are we going to LCA Wellington next year (Jan 2010) anyway? We could
assist WM-NZ with their formation.
- Naturally if we were to host Wikimania it would not be influenced by this.
FYI, Below is two posts to the ABC's Science Matters list.
Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)
Subject: Students given Wikipedia assignments was Re: Arguments from ignorance
From: Morris Gray <msgray(a)symbex.net.au>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:36 AM
To: ABC Science Matters Discussion List
Wikipedia is even more quickly becoming a nemesis; and proof that
things go from order to disorder.
The ever-growing online encyclopedia's strategy of letting anyone with
an Internet connection edit and revise, the argument usually goes,
makes it unreliable, unacademic -- and off limits.
But then Freudenreich, 21, was given a surprising assignment by her
Latin American literature professor: instead of writing term papers,
the class would be writing Wikipedia articles.
There is a trend for more and more teachers to use Wikipedia for
assignments, both to use it as a source and for students to create
assignments on it.
Here is an example from Florida State University
There are more and more attempts to create the perfect wiki.
Google's Knol has been a washout and will be shut down by the end of 2009.
And then there is the complete lunatic fringe.
So the watch words for 2009....
Never believe anything you read or hear and only half of what you see.
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From: Richard Levy <rlevy_365(a)hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:04 AM
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That is really sad but activities over the few days probably make it reality.
> From: msgray(a)symbex.net.au
> To: abc-science-matters(a)mail.abcnewsletters.net.au
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:06:13 +1100
> Subject: Students given Wikipedia assignments was Re: Arguments from ignorance
The next stage of the Creative Commons Non-commercial study is about to commence, and they're looking for participants.
In this stage, Creative Commons will be conducting focus groups looking at the meaning of Non-Commercial. Some of the groups will be online, and they're keen to get international participation. CC are also keen to get representatives from as many different groups as possible - so pass this on to anyone you think might be interested.
If you're interested in participating, see http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/12285 for details and the application form. Places are limited, so get in fast.
being a 'starter of many things' (and the jury's out on whether or not I
finish any of them!) - I've created this page;
I'm aware of quite a few discussions in this area, and believe it's a great
direction for the chapter to pursue... it's certainly something that I'm up
for working on as a fun and interesting project.
I was chatting with Werdna about how technically we might copy articles from
en into a smaller 'collection for schools' - and he talked me through the
'Special:Export' and 'Special:Import' functions - which basically just copy
across an article and the last 1,000 revisions between wikis... here's my
technical question though - when I visit 'Special:Import' on the au wiki it
gives me a 'permission error ("The action you have requested is limited to
registered users. Please read
Accounts<http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Accounts>to find out how to
register an account.")
I wonder if anyone technically minded has any ideas on how this could be
fixed? - I'd like to test the funcitonality of this stuff, and maybe make a
few 'proof of concept' type collections :-)
I've created http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Contacting_external_folk as a
place to centralise some information, and chat about good processes for how
non-committee members (and indeed anyone really) may be able to make contact
with external agencies for various reasons - take a look if you get the
chance, and help knock it into shape :-)
My inspiration for this was a whisper that it might be possible to attend a
Manly Sea Eagles training / press session to get some high quality images -
I know that the Wallabies (union national team) are also fairly open to such
things, so thought it might be a good idea to centralise the info.
an interesting one;
talking about some new developments in Brittanica's approach.... it's a
shame we (the chapter) didn't get a mention, or a quote or something - but
never mind :-)
the story is top of the 'top 10 stories of the day' currently at smh.com.au,
so it's clearly getting read, by the way.....
one more quick one - I won a wiki bet recently, and now a fellow editor has
to cough up 20 bucks to WMAU - I'm sure the committee has accepting web
based donations as a priority, but I thought I'd flag that there's at least
a $20 incentive to get that up and running as soon as poss :-)