Guys,
Where do we stand on the legal questions front? Has it been taken care of or are things still up in the air? If things are still up in the air, do we have, and if not, can we put together, a straight forward list of questions? My cousin Will and his wife are both JDs (Juris Doctor). Will was used a few weeks ago in a newspaper adverts for the JD degree at Melbourne Uni, so I'm quoting his qualifications from that:
"...commenced the Melbourne JD after completing a BA (Hons), University of Melbourne; B.Bus. (Marketing), Monash University; and following a career in marketing and advertising. He now works as a commercial lawyer at a Melbourne law firm."
If we are still having trouble finding a lawyer to quiz, I don't mind emailing Will a list of questions and asking if he can help with answers. I know he would help if he can but whether he actually can or not I have no clue about. Are our questions in a specialist field? Do we need a specialist lawyer or just a lawyer? (Sorry, I'm totally ignorant about this, I know) Will's wife might also be able to help. She did the Melbourne Uni JD and also has some international degrees (I'm not sure exactly what they are but I think they're in business/finance and law). She is currently at home with their young son and may have more time to respond to our questions, anyway.
So anyway, do we want to discuss the legal questions or is it resolved now? Or should we put off discussing this further until after Wikimania and everyone is back on deck?
Sarah
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From: Gnangarra
To: Sarah Ewart
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:41 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Wikimediaau-l] Progress
Is this it?
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From: Nathan Carter <cartmanau(a)gmail.com>
Date: 13-Jul-2007 08:50
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Progress
To: Wikimedia-au <wikimediaau-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
No problems at all from me on that one.
If needs be I am more than happy to travel from Bathurst to Sydney to see someone as well :)
On 7/12/07, Enoch Lau <elau8465(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't heard back from Stephen about him approaching faculty members at his law school. If no one objects, I might consider emailing some law firms in Sydney about whether they will provide pro bono advice for us.
Cheers
ENoch
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Hi,
Have we had any progress on discussions with a legal person?
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Guys,
Where do we stand on the legal questions front? Has it been taken care of or are things still up in the air? If things are still up in the air, do we have, and if not, can we put together, a straight forward list of questions? My cousin Will and his wife are both JDs (Juris Doctor). Will was used a few weeks ago in a newspaper adverts for the JD degree at Melbourne Uni, so I'm quoting his qualifications from that:
"...commenced the Melbourne JD after completing a BA (Hons), University of Melbourne; B.Bus. (Marketing), Monash University; and following a career in marketing and advertising. He now works as a commercial lawyer at a Melbourne law firm."
If we are still having trouble finding a lawyer to quiz, I don't mind emailing Will a list of questions and asking if he can help with answers. I'm know he would help if he can but whether he actually can or not I have no clue about. Are our questions in a specialist field? Do we need a specialist lawyer or just a lawyer? (Sorry, I'm totally ignorant about this, I know) Will's wife might also be able to help. She did the Melbourne Uni JD and also has some international degrees (I'm not sure exactly what they are but I think they're in business/finance and law). She is currently at home with their young son and may have more time to respond to our questions, anyway.
So anyway, do we want to discuss the legal questions or is it resolved now? Or should we put off discussing this further until after Wikimania and everyone is back on deck?
Sarah
----- Original Message -----
From: Gnangarra
To: Sarah Ewart
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:41 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Wikimediaau-l] Progress
Is this it?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nathan Carter <cartmanau(a)gmail.com>
Date: 13-Jul-2007 08:50
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Progress
To: Wikimedia-au <wikimediaau-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
No problems at all from me on that one.
If needs be I am more than happy to travel from Bathurst to Sydney to see someone as well :)
On 7/12/07, Enoch Lau <elau8465(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't heard back from Stephen about him approaching faculty members at his law school. If no one objects, I might consider emailing some law firms in Sydney about whether they will provide pro bono advice for us.
Cheers
ENoch
On 10/07/07, Nathan Carter <cartmanau(a)gmail.com > wrote:
Hi,
Have we had any progress on discussions with a legal person?
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Hello folks
At 'free culture' they are mapping their next steps forward.
They have asked people to include in their wiki their thoughts about
free culture and what it would look like 5 years from now if we were
successful.
There is a response from a person on open education, thought I would
spread the word in case there are other perspectives people would like
to get out there.
Janet
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From: Kevin Driscoll <driscollkevin(a)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2007 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Share your vision of a free culture future
Hi everyone!
This is a reminder to get your daydream machine churning and post your
vision up on the FC wiki before next Wednesday's first deadline!
http://wiki.freeculture.org/Developing_Vision
Thanks out to everyone who sent supportive emails. I've tremendously
enjoyed our conversation. Let's take it to the next step and get some
rough visions out to the world!
Kevin Driscoll
reppin' South Boston, USA
On 6/28/07, Free Culture blog <webleader+rss-bot(a)freeculture.org> wrote:
> The movement toward a more free culture has united the strangest
> assortment of characters. Hip-hop DJs mingle with free software hackers,
> ivy league lawyers make smalltalk with teenage media activists,
> kindergarten teachers talk shop with dotcom millionaires. To overground
> this diversity, I am seeking a statement of your personal vision for a
> free culture future.
>
> In other words, _what does winning look like_?
>
> Imagine your life after five successful years working on your free
> culture projects. How is your day-to-day existence different? What does
> a city look like? How have the lives of your parents and friends
> changed? What does it feel like to live in a more free culture? Does it
> smell different? Sound different?
>
> To contribute to this project, please visit the [Developing Vision page
> on the Free Culture wiki][1]. There you will find space to add your
> vision.
>
> The submission deadline is on July 11.
>
> [1]: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Developing_Vision
>
> URL: http://freeculture.org/blog/2007/06/28/share-your-vision-of-a-free-culture-…
> _______________________________________________
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I think SJ's notes on the US chapter have some useful ideas for the
Australian one. See his email below.
Angela
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From: SJ Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 10, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaus-l] US Wikimedia gatherings (was: Wikimedia
Pennsylvania)
To: Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net>, brion(a)wikimedia.org
Cc: wikimediaus-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Related notes for the wikimediaus list (to wikify!):
Some interesting discussions about how to develop local / US wikipedia
communities over the course of the year have included:
* using on-wiki alternatives to Meetup.com, improving the [[Meetup]]
pages on en.wp and meta, and their synchronization
* organizing local outings, parties, knowledge gathering and wiki capture
(of photos, from library jams, through distributed research projects)
* working with Universities: getting WP clubs set up, petitioning schools
to become more wiki aware: starting school-wide wikis, using wikis in
classes. Having a core of students who can talk about WP and how it works
to classes on technology, collaborative writing, group creation, cyberlaw,
and more.
* working with local non-profits and tech groups that want to get to know
wikis in general, mediawiki in particular, and Wikipedia as a community
and a plcae to contribute knowledge about the topics they encounter or
care about.
* organizing speakers and presentations at local libraries, high school
and middle schools.
* organizing groups of language enthusiasts to contribute to and maintain
a multilingual portal representing smaller languages present within the
US, and identify language presence -- primary and secondary language
usage, oral and written.
* Talking to education and cultural preservation groups that might have
content drives or curatorial projects; helping them understand how to
integrate these with Wikipedia, and licensing in general
These are mostly general enough that we could start making a global
"local initiatives" set of ideas on meta, for all chapters and enthusiast
groups, formal and informal... but we should also work out how to do
these things specifically within the US.
Questions:
- where are upcoming conferences that might love wp and appreciate a
presence?
- where are local university departments already investigating and
researching and prominently using WP and sister projects?
- where are local groups of mediawiki hackers and users, who might be
interested in wikipedia meetings as well?
- who currently talks about wikipedia in their meanderings? literature
search + contact email ===> sponsors for local clubs and orgs
- where are there spaces dedicated to free knowledge, free-content
writing or media creation, and the like? [For instance, start with the
community television orgs (which until recently had lots of national
funding to provide everyone access to tools to create media). How can
their current efforts integrate better with WP / do they have space to
host meetings / do they already have regular meetings that could be
extended somehow?]
SJ