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Neal McBurnett

2 Jul 2020 2 Jul '20

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Todd Allen

2 Jul 2 Jul

9:42 p.m.

It is exactly correct and I have signed it as well. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Neal McBurnett <neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:

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See the attachment for an open letter organized by dozens of Wikimedia affiliates asking for an immediate pause to renaming activities by the Wikimedia Foundation, due to process shortcomings of the 2030 Movement Brand Project. I just signed the open letter described in the attachment. Or just visit: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming and some of the many pages it links to. I propose that we sign this as the Wikimedians in Colorado User Group. What do you all think? Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Affiliates <all-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: [All-affiliates] Community open letter on renaming on Meta Dear all, There is currently a community open letter on renaming [[m:COLOR]] that requests a pause to renaming activities being pursued by the Wikimedia Foundation 2030 Brand Project. The open letter focuses on concerns about the problems with the process so far, and not about specific naming choices. Individual editors and affiliates (via their designated representative) can sign with their logged-in account to show support. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming Coming up: There is currently a branding survey that runs until July 7. There is concern that the consultation process and options on the survey do not adequately reflect community sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation and movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open letter. Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding issue, so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent 2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand project issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those calls helped generate the letter through the help of more than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+ individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great interest in this issue. Regards, -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) LINKS: Community Open Letter on Renaming (COLOR) on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming 2030 Brand Project main page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme… Brand survey for individuals: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD (If there are options you would like to highlight outside of the three provided, it is possible to write in your own options and views at the end of the survey) Brand survey for affiliates: A link should have been sent to the affiliate liaisons or affiliate contacts. If you have not received any correspondence, please contact Essie Zar (ezar -at- wikimedia.org) of WMF. English Wikipedia Signpost article about the issue and a Q&A interview with the document writers and collaborators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/Inter… _______________________________________________ All-affiliates mailing list All-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/all-affiliates _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co

Isarra Yos

3 Jul 3 Jul

12:05 a.m.

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It is exactly correct and I have signed it as well. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Neal McBurnett <neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us <mailto:neal@bcn.boulder.co.us>> wrote: See the attachment for an open letter organized by dozens of Wikimedia affiliates asking for an immediate pause to renaming activities by the Wikimedia Foundation, due to process shortcomings of the 2030 Movement Brand Project. I just signed the open letter described in the attachment. Or just visit: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming and some of the many pages it links to. I propose that we sign this as the Wikimedians in Colorado User Group. What do you all think? Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com <mailto:andrew.lih@gmail.com>> To: Wikimedia Affiliates <all-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:all-affiliates@lists.wikimedia.org>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: [All-affiliates] Community open letter on renaming on Meta Dear all, There is currently a community open letter on renaming [[m:COLOR]] that requests a pause to renaming activities being pursued by the Wikimedia Foundation 2030 Brand Project. The open letter focuses on concerns about the problems with the process so far, and not about specific naming choices. Individual editors and affiliates (via their designated representative) can sign with their logged-in account to show support. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming Coming up: There is currently a branding survey that runs until July 7. There is concern that the consultation process and options on the survey do not adequately reflect community sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation and movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open letter. Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding issue, so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent 2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand project issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those calls helped generate the letter through the help of more than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+ individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great interest in this issue. Regards, -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) LINKS: Community Open Letter on Renaming (COLOR) on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming 2030 Brand Project main page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme… Brand survey for individuals: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD (If there are options you would like to highlight outside of the three provided, it is possible to write in your own options and views at the end of the survey) Brand survey for affiliates: A link should have been sent to the affiliate liaisons or affiliate contacts. If you have not received any correspondence, please contact Essie Zar (ezar -at- wikimedia.org <http://wikimedia.org>) of WMF. English Wikipedia Signpost article about the issue and a Q&A interview with the document writers and collaborators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/Inter… _______________________________________________ All-affiliates mailing list All-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:All-affiliates@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/all-affiliates _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co

Neal McBurnett

12:19 a.m.

We have three yesses so far. I suggest we wait another day or two then submit a group response if we have consensus. -Neal On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 10:05:58PM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote:

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Seems reasonable to me. We should probably get our group back in compliance, though, while we're at it - I think all we need to do is actually submit our report (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Colorado_User_Group/Annual_R…). Should I just go ahead and do that? -I On 02/07/2020 19:42, Todd Allen wrote: It is exactly correct and I have signed it as well. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Neal McBurnett <neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: See the attachment for an open letter organized by dozens of Wikimedia affiliates asking for an immediate pause to renaming activities by the Wikimedia Foundation, due to process shortcomings of the 2030 Movement Brand Project. I just signed the open letter described in the attachment. Or just visit: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming and some of the many pages it links to. I propose that we sign this as the Wikimedians in Colorado User Group. What do you all think? Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Affiliates <all-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: [All-affiliates] Community open letter on renaming on Meta Dear all, There is currently a community open letter on renaming [[m:COLOR]] that requests a pause to renaming activities being pursued by the Wikimedia Foundation 2030 Brand Project. The open letter focuses on concerns about the problems with the process so far, and not about specific naming choices. Individual editors and affiliates (via their designated representative) can sign with their logged-in account to show support. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming Coming up: There is currently a branding survey that runs until July 7. There is concern that the consultation process and options on the survey do not adequately reflect community sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation and movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open letter. Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding issue, so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent 2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand project issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those calls helped generate the letter through the help of more than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+ individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great interest in this issue. Regards, -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) LINKS: Community Open Letter on Renaming (COLOR) on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming 2030 Brand Project main page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme… Brand survey for individuals: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD (If there are options you would like to highlight outside of the three provided, it is possible to write in your own options and views at the end of the survey) Brand survey for affiliates: A link should have been sent to the affiliate liaisons or affiliate contacts. If you have not received any correspondence, please contact Essie Zar (ezar -at- wikimedia.org) of WMF. English Wikipedia Signpost article about the issue and a Q&A interview with the document writers and collaborators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/Inter… _______________________________________________ All-affiliates mailing list All-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/all-affiliates _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co

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Pharos

6 Jul 6 Jul

5:49 a.m.

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We have three yesses so far. I suggest we wait another day or two then submit a group response if we have consensus. -Neal On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 10:05:58PM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote:

Seems reasonable to me. We should probably get our group back in compliance, though, while we're

at it - I think all we need to do is actually submit our

report (

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Colorado_User_Group/Annual_R…). Should I just go ahead and do that?

-I On 02/07/2020 19:42, Todd Allen wrote: It is exactly correct and I have signed it as well. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Neal McBurnett <

neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:

See the attachment for an open letter organized by dozens of

Wikimedia affiliates asking for an immediate pause to renaming

activities by the Wikimedia Foundation, due to process

shortcomings of the 2030 Movement Brand Project.

I just signed the open letter described in the attachment. Or just visit:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming

and some of the many pages it links to. I propose that we sign this as the Wikimedians in Colorado User

Group.

What do you all think? Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Affiliates <all-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: [All-affiliates] Community open letter on renaming on

Meta

Dear all, There is currently a community open letter on renaming

[[m:COLOR]] that requests a pause to renaming activities being

pursued by the Wikimedia Foundation 2030 Brand Project. The open

letter focuses on concerns about the problems with the

process so far, and not about specific naming choices. Individual editors and affiliates (via their designated

representative) can sign with their logged-in account to show

support.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming

Coming up: There is currently a branding survey that runs until

July 7. There is concern that the consultation process and

options on the survey do not adequately reflect community

sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation and

movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open

letter.

Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF

board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding issue,

so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent

2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand project

issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those

calls helped generate the letter through the help of more

than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+

individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great interest in

this issue. Regards, -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) LINKS: Community Open Letter on Renaming (COLOR) on meta:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming

2030 Brand Project main page:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme…

Brand survey for individuals: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD (If there are options you would like to highlight outside of the

three provided, it is possible to write in your own

options and views at the end of the survey) Brand survey for affiliates: A link should have been sent to the affiliate liaisons or

affiliate contacts. If you have not received any correspondence,

please contact Essie Zar (ezar -at- wikimedia.org) of WMF. English Wikipedia Signpost article about the issue and a Q&A

interview with the document writers and collaborators:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/Inter…

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Neal McBurnett

8:24 p.m.

Thanks for the reminder, Pharos. I've signed the open letter on behalf of the Wikimedians of Colorado User Group. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming I previously filled out my own opinions via the survey sent out earlier, with the comments below. If you like, I can also fill out the "Brand survey for affiliates" providing official responses, with these or any edits of them we agree on. Note it is distinct from the "Brand survey for individuals" at https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ === possible comments from colorado user group The survey itself is flawed, with a biased intro and no opportunity for discussion before its launch. Thus the results of the survey will be more misleading than helpful. This proposal creates confusion between Wikipedia (a well-known brand for the encyclopedia) and the other projects, and co-opts its name. There are other ways to promote a more overreaching brand. E.g. perhaps the movement could promote the existing name and message as a part of the top of every page: "Wikipedia is part of by the Wikimedia Movement, supported by the Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization that also hosts a range of other projects". Wikipedia Network Colorado? It suggests that our group only works on Wikipedia, when in fact much of our work is on Commons and Meta. Go back to the status quo, or use WikiMedia Network WikiMedia Movement Bringing the Wikipedia team spirit to all forms of knowledge WikiMedia .... (or whatever their name is now) Just don't sow discord in the movement, and confusion for the world, by rebranding to Wikipedia! Start from scratch and respect the perspective and work of the various projects. It would be just fine to reinvest in the name WikiMedia! Use it more effectively on our existing project pages. Be proud of it! It might help to capitalize the M as I've done here. === On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 11:49:04PM -0400, Pharos wrote:

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Great if you can decide everything before July 7, when the brand survey ends. You should also have received a separate affiliate brand survey email from the WMF people. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:19 PM Neal McBurnett <neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: We have three yesses so far. I suggest we wait another day or two then submit a group response if we have consensus. -Neal On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 10:05:58PM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote:

Seems reasonable to me. We should probably get our group back in compliance, though, while we're at it - I think all we need to do is actually submit

our

report (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Colorado_User_Group/Annual_R…). Should I just go ahead and do

that?

-I On 02/07/2020 19:42, Todd Allen wrote: It is exactly correct and I have signed it as well. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:12 PM Neal McBurnett <neal(a)bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: See the attachment for an open letter organized by dozens of Wikimedia affiliates asking for an immediate pause to

renaming

activities by the Wikimedia Foundation, due to process shortcomings of the 2030 Movement Brand Project. I just signed the open letter described in the attachment. Or just visit: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming and some of the many pages it links to. I propose that we sign this as the Wikimedians in Colorado User Group. What do you all think? Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Lih <andrew.lih(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Affiliates <all-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:40:05 -0400 Subject: [All-affiliates] Community open letter on renaming on Meta Dear all, There is currently a community open letter on renaming [[m:COLOR]] that requests a pause to renaming activities being pursued by the Wikimedia Foundation 2030 Brand Project. The open letter focuses on concerns about the problems with

the

process so far, and not about specific naming choices. Individual editors and affiliates (via their designated representative) can sign with their logged-in account to show support. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming Coming up: There is currently a branding survey that runs until July 7. There is concern that the consultation

process and

options on the survey do not adequately reflect community sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation

and

movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open letter. Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding

issue,

so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent 2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand

project

issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those calls helped generate the letter through the help of

than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+ individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great

interest in

this issue. Regards, -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) LINKS: Community Open Letter on Renaming (COLOR) on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming 2030 Brand Project main page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_moveme… Brand survey for individuals: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD (If there are options you would like to highlight outside of the three provided, it is possible to write in your own options and views at the end of the survey) Brand survey for affiliates: A link should have been sent to the affiliate liaisons or affiliate contacts. If you have not received any

correspondence,

please contact Essie Zar (ezar -at- wikimedia.org) of WMF. English Wikipedia Signpost article about the issue and a Q&A interview with the document writers and collaborators: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2020-06-28/Inter… _______________________________________________ All-affiliates mailing list All-affiliates(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/all-affiliates _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co

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Isarra Yos

8:34 p.m.

Thanks, Neal. That's well-said, and definitely points that need making. On 06/07/2020 18:24, Neal McBurnett wrote:

...

Seems reasonable to me. We should probably get our group back in compliance, though, while we're at it - I think all we need to do is actually submit

our

report (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Colorado_User_Group/Annual_R…). Should I just go ahead and do

that?

renaming

the

process and

options on the survey do not adequately reflect community sentiment, given the effect name changes for the foundation

and

movement would have. This was a major motivation for the open letter. Additionally, it has been announced that there will be a WMF board meeting scheduled in July to discuss the branding

issue,

so it is important to express your views now. Thanks to all the affiliates who took part in our recent 2020-06-20 to 21 affiliates meetings to discuss the brand

project

issues, where we had more than 70 attendees. Folks from those calls helped generate the letter through the help of

than a dozen editors. With more than 40 major chapters and affiliates and 500+ individuals signing the statement, we are seeing great

interest in

correspondence,

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