Re: [Wikimedia-tn] Reporting an issue from [Carthagina] - WMTNUG Decision - Wikimedia-tn

12 Oct 2017

      Bonjour,
Je confirme ma présence.
Amicalement,
Afek
Le 8 oct. 2017 19:26, "Wikimedia Tunisia" contact@wikimedia.tn a écrit :
Dear members of the Wikipedia TN User Group,
Thank you very much for all your emails.
It was not easy to take such decision especially that Mounir was one of
the most active Wikimedian in the group but as cofounders we had to take
this decision in order to help our community moving forward without any
distraction and contribute productively within a safe and
harassment-free working space.
We hope that this situation will never happen again. We are still a
growing young community, every member matters regardless his level of
contribution and as Katherine Maher said recently “Your edit count is
not your contribution”.
To move forward we would like to invite you to a meetup next Saturday
14th of Oct in Tunis (location to be confirmed later) at 3 pm to discuss
the group organisation and our ongoing/future activities.
Wikimedia TN User Group
Le 20/09/2017 à 21:39, Wikimedia Tunisia a écrit :
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Dear Mounir Touzri,
It was not easy for us to write this email but we had to do it for the
sake of keeping a healthy community and avoid harassment and disruptive
behavior within our group.
We have read your answer to the harassment and other accusations
reported by Emna Mizouni on behalf of some members of our community.
Even though there was something in our hearts trying to believe you or
maybe hoping for more arguments, your official reply (received after
more than two weeks from Habib’s email) was not convincing.
Unfortunately the collected evidences and the number of members that we
contacted and who confirmed the accusations, that were mentioned in the
incident received, add to that the official ban from our partner
Carthagina, brought us to take a hard decision and to take this case to
an upper level.
We do believe that all our members deserve a safe and harassment-free
working space in which they can contribute productively and debate
constructively.
As a wikimedian you must know that within our movement we preach for
certain code of conduct based on civility and respect and as founders of
this group it belongs to us to look after this and to not tolerate any
disruptive behavior.
With all the respect that we have for your valuable contributions to the
wikimedia projects and to the group activities, we, as co-founders of
the Wikimedia TN User Group, regret to inform you that based on
+ the Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative,

+ the Friendly space policy for Wikimedia Foundation events,

+ and our community code of conduct that the following decisions

have been discussed and approved to:
1- Withdraw your membership from the Wikimedia TN User Group and kindly
ask you to not organise any activity or project on behalf of the group,
2-Inform the Wikimedia Foundation about this decision,
3-Inform all the other Wikimedia affiliates (user groups, chapters etc.)
that you, no longer, represent the Wikimedia TN User Group in any
activity,
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4-Handover any ongoing activity initiated on behalf of the group.
It saddens us to take this decision but we do believe that it’s the
right thing to help our community moving forward without any distraction
in order to fulfill our commitments.
Wikimedia TN User Group
Agreement signers
Habib Mhenni
Yamen Bousrih--
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http://wikimedia.tn
Le 19/08/2017 à 22:45, Mounir Touzri a écrit :
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أعضاء  ويكيميديا  تونس

أولا وقبل كل شيء أنا آسف لتأخير جوابي كما أشكر حبيب على الرد الرزين
و المتعقل،
هذه الرسالة  خطيرة  جدا  و هنالك العديد  من  المغالطات،ثانيا سأجيب
فقط على  الأسئلة  التي طلبها  مني حبيب  ،
، كان هدفي  دوما  دعم  مجتمع  ويكيميديا  تونس  بكل الطرق لكن و
للأسف  بعض الأعضاء  لا يرغبون  بي في  المجموعة،
أولا بالنسبة  للإهانةوالمضايقة  انا لم أقم بذالك

ثانيا  بالنسبة  للأصوات  نعم اقترحت  على   بعض الأعضاء  دعم  عضو
معين  لحضور  مؤتمر  و لم افرض  عليهم  التصويت  له ،فقط كان اقتراح و
هذا لكي  يتمكن  كل الاعضاء  من المشاركة  في  مؤتمرات  ويكيميديا
وتحفيز  كل الأعضاء  و كان كل الاعضاء  متفقين  في هذه النقطة  بعد
الاتصال  بهممع العلم العضو المقترح لم يشارك في أي مؤتمر سابق ، و على
كل حال كل  شخص حر في رأيه  و كانوا  قادرين  على  التصويت  لشخص آخر
او رفض  التصويت  مثل باقي  الأعضاء
بالنسبة  للمنح أولا  يجب التذكير  هنالك  نوعان  من  المنح  منح
شخصية  و منح  مع مجموعات  انا لم أقم بتقديم  طلب  منحة  باسم
ويكيميديا  تونس بعد اجتماع سوسة  و بالنسبة  للمنحة الشخصية  فهو
أمر شخصي بيني  و بين مؤسسة  ويكيميديا  و لا علاقة  له  بالمجموعة ،
مع العلم  تم ذكر هذا الموضوع  في  اجتماع  سوسة، كل شخص يمكنه أن يقدم
طلب  منحة  شخصية  و يتحمل  المسؤولية  كاملة  مع مؤسسة  ويكيميديا و
لا دخل للمجموعة  بهذه المنحة، و هذا  الأمر  يقومون  به  في كل

الدول ،
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بمناسبة  المنح يجب القيام  بمنحة  سريعة  أو إرجاع  المبلغ  المتبقي
للمؤسسة  في خصوص  المبلغ  المتبقي  من  منحة  اجتماع  سوسة
أخيرا  انا اسف  على  هذا  الأمر و حز  في  نفسي  بعد ثلاث  سنوات
كعضو  في  المجموعة  ان اجد نفسي  في  هذا الموقف ،

2017-08-14 16:11 GMT+01:00 Habib M'henni <habib.mhenni@gmail.com
mailto:habib.mhenni@gmail.com>:
Dear Mounir,

Can you please comment this issue?
By the end of this week (Sunday, August 20th) we will move to the
next step on discussions.

Cordially,

Habib Mhenni
On behalf of the Wikimedia TN User Group (legal final agreement

signer)
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*De :* Habib M'henni <habib.mhenni@wikimedia.tn
<mailto:habib.mhenni@wikimedia.tn>>
*Envoyé :* 7 août 2017 14:24:10 GMT+01:00
*À :* Emna Mizouni <emna.mizouni@gmail.com
<mailto:emna.mizouni@gmail.com>>, Wikimedia TN User Group Mailing
List <wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org>>, Yamen Bousrih
<bousrihyamen@yahoo.com <mailto:bousrihyamen@yahoo.com>>
*Objet :* Re: [Wikimedia-tn] Reporting an issue from [Carthagina]

Dear Emna,
Thanks for sharing this report with our community. Carthagina and
it's members belong in our beliefs and concerns about sharing
knowledge and preserving our heritage. We are still pleased to
collaborate together to promote our activities in a safety way.

Dear Wikimedians of the *Wikimedia TN User Group* we (as Co-founder
of the group) are very sorry to hear such statements.

Mounir is a very active member and helped so much to achieve many of
our programs.

Dear Mounir, I would hear about your comments upon this points:
1. Do you confirm any of these behaviours from the report?
2. If not, would you explain to our community what did really
happened, and I insist about
a- the *harassment* point ;
b- gossiping (vote issues) ;
c- asking grants without informing the community.

Dear members, please abstain from any comments until Mounir replies.
I remind you that this ML is not restricted (views).

Cordially,

Habib M'henni

Le 7 août 2017 11:51:48 GMT+01:00, Emna Mizouni
<emna.mizouni@gmail.com <mailto:emna.mizouni@gmail.com>> a écrit :

    Dear co-founders of the group,

    Dear Wikimedia TN User Group members,

    I trust my email finds you all in good shape. I'm writing to you
    on my capacity as Carthagina current President.

    I’m addressing this email to the co-founders of the group as the
    legitimate co-chairs and to the community as well because we are
    partners in several successful projects (MedinaPedia, GLAM) and
    contests (WLM, WLA,...). We strongly value this partnership and
    we would like to maintain it for more joint work (the ongoing
    GLAM project in the Diocesan Library, the upcoming photo
    contests, the next MedinaPedia Dougga and Sfax,...).

    I would like to report an issue between a member of this
    community and some members of my team - Carthagina that has gone
    bigger than expected.

    In Carthagina, we value people and we value our team's work and
    of course our partners. Partner for once, partner forever. We,
    as well, prioritise the diversity and homogeneity of the team.

    Jamel Ben Saidane (a wikimedian and Human Resources Officer -
    Carthagina) and I received a complaint from Afek Ben Chahed and
    Zeineb Takouti, two members of Carthagina and active
    Wikimedians. They reported several times the misbehaviour of the
    Wikimedian Mounir Touzri. The situation kept escalating to the
    point of insulting Zeineb and devaluing her work. Harassing Afek
    and trying to influence her to split Carthagina and Wikimedia TN
    UG members. Afek reported as well that Mounir has stolen one of
    her ideas of Wiki University Clubs.

    Side conversations took place containing gossiping, shouting on
    the phone and depreciation toward these members. It became an
    unhealthy environment to volunteer. It suddenly became a very
    contagious atmosphere where my teammates felt frustrated and
    affected in a way to have incidents within the core staff of
    Carthagina (when Mounir started reaching out to Issam Barhoumi
    and Samy Mlouhi).

    /I would like to thank Habib and Yamen who called the members to
    motivate them in several occasions showing a good model of
    leadership./

    But this is not all. The complaint that I would like to hand to
    you as a Wikimedian, contains influencing voting. Several
    members confirmed that Mounir contacted them privately to ask
    them to vote for a specific person. The way that he acts as the
    owner of the every new members faith; X person can go to attend
    Y conference while Z person is not welcome to attend ...

    May I remind you that this kind of behaviour made us lose one of
    the active and enthusiastic wikipedian few year ago (I’m talking
    here about Wael Ghabara).

    I would like to also highlight that myself as well as other
    wikimedians, have concerns about the grants that Mounir is
    receiving without letting us know. I recall our Wikimedia TN
    meeting organised by Mounir himself in Sousse early March, when
    we all agreed that all grant requests should be known by the
    community and go through our unique fiscal sponsor CLibre.

    From our side in Carthagina, for the first time in our history
    we activated our policy and decided unanimously to ban
    definitely Mounir Touzri from all our activities, projects and
    venue. We declare him as a "Persona non grata". This decision
    was taken based on our code of conduct and all our members,
    observer-members and board of trustees voted for it. This is the
    hardest decision, we took in Carthagina, especially that Mounir
    was considered part of our community and that he helped us in
    the WM-Carthagina events. But unfortunately, we cannot
    allow/accept this kind of behaviour from someone who's supposed
    to know our policy as well as the Wikimedia friendly space

policy.
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    The Carthagina meeting minutes would be shared with Yamen and
    Habib and if you would like to hear more concerns from our team
    about the Wikimedia related issues, my team and I are happy to
    collaborate.

    It saddens me to write this email but the situation needed an
    action to stop the abuse from growing bigger than it is.

    Sadly

    Emna

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      Digital Manager - British Council Tunisia

      Affiliations Committee Member - Wikimedia Foundation
      Founder & President of Carthagina

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Habib M'henni
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