) to simplify it means sharing rumors
or saying something which is not right and that was not the case.
Afek
Le 23 sept. 2017 01:36, "Emna Mizouni" <emna.mizouni(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Dear Wikimedians,
First of all, I'd like to thank the co-founders Habib and Yamen for
getting back to our report after this long period. I assume this would've
taken so much time and energy but I appreciate that you prioritised our
Wikimedia Community health.
I'd like to draw the attention of all the members to the fact that the
members who complained are "Active Wikimedians" that happens to be
Carthagina members as well. I believe this doesn't make their complaints
less important or less credible.
Let's be clear about something, the suspension of Mounir's membership is
not only related to Carthagina as a partner organisation. May I remind all
of you that when I informed you of our decision (attached pdf), I also
informed you all in this mailing list of my concerns as a Wikimedian about
some of Mounir's behaviour. It took him more than two weeks to get back to
Habib with an answer that I qualify as non-serious.
On my capacity as Carthagina's president, along with the Human Resources
Responsible Jamel Ben Saidane, we contacted Mounir Touzri couple of weeks
before our decision to address him privately the reported issues from
Zeineb and Afek and the endorsing complaint by other
Carthaginers/Wikimedians i.e Sami and Issam. He didn't take it seriously
neither.
The decision that we took, as a community, wasn't based on couple of
emails or only complaints. It came after months of calls back and forth
with Mounir and the other affected members. It came after several reported
incidents.
Dear Mounir, it's not Afek who 'betrayed you'! May I remind you of how
many times you called me since Zeineb was accepted to attend WikiIndaba
(when none of the community applied except her and Youssef Ben Hadj Yahia).
You kept nagging and complaining about her attendance. You escalated the
nagging when our WM community agreed to send her to the GLAM meeting as the
only interested GLAM working member ?! May I remind you as well what I told
you back then; and I have to talk here about the internal work of
Carthagina: Zeineb is the responsible member of the GLAM project and the
partnership between Carthagina and the Diocesan Library; at that time she
was covering the Library's Director Fr Marc who went on a mission to
Brussels. The decision that was taken in Carthagina was that Zeineb would
prioritise of course the Library and Carthagina's work upon her volunteer
work on the GLAM project which would be on hold until she could handle the
situation.
Zeineb was one of the most devoted members in Carthagina to coordinate
with you our joint work (i.e WLM, WLA, and other workshops...). Your
reaction toward this collaboration was one of the issues addresses! That
made us want to review our work with you.
If you think she didn't do enough effort, I'm afraid that the different
committees that accepted her applications to attend the different
conferences don't share the same view as you.
You even confirmed to Jamel and myself that you wanted to delete some of
her GLAM work on purpose because she was using the WM camera and didn't
want to send it to you.
Calling someone constantly is a hassle, yelling on him at the phone is
disrespectful and not acceptable. Calling other members to devalue her work
and insult her is definitely considered as gossiping. I hope you still
remember that you did it.
That behaviour is never accepted, first under the Wikimedia Friend Space
Policy, second within Carthagina as you were addressing to different
members, and a founding member, the Secretary General in the frame of a
joint project.
As a team in Carthagina, we are transparent, we behave and care about
eachothers wellbeing. This is what led everyone to report the buylling.
Nobody wants this to happen to a teammate neither to him one day.
As for Influencing the vote, you should know that more than any new member
to our WM community that you must not be reaching out to people on and
off-line to recommend anyone. For some people you were their trainer one
day and this would influence their decision, not saying about asking to
vote for a specific person. Sending out candidacy info to mailing lists or
sharing it on social media without naming a particular person is not
influencing. I can remind you personally how Asaf Bartov warnned you once
on FB to not ask people to vote for a specific picture during the WLA
community award.
It also surprises me that you deny that Afek told you about her project
idea months ago! She was open about it (as anyone in this community) and
asked for help to make it happen.
I'd be interested as well to read your accusations toward Zeineb, as I
previously sent you when reaching out before taking our decision.
Persona non gratta - statement.pdf
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3YpKA2KaklHM2VEUS1JNXpkNlk/view?usp=drive_web>
To the community, and the co-founders, I'd like to highlight again that
our decision toward Mounir was voted unanimously by Carthagina's Board of
Trustees, Board of Advisors, Executive team, Members and Members-Observers.
I am attaching as well the statement released by our Legal Advisor
endorsing our decision.
Finally, I say it again, it wasn't easy to take this decision in our
community. Mounir's work and collaboration were never undervalued but his
behaviour toward our members led us to this tough decision.
Cordially
Emna
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Mounir Touzri <touzrimounir(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear all members of wikimedia TN users,
It seems like my first email was not convincing enough, I noticed that
from your responses and I believe that this weakens my position and gives a
biased form of the reality.
I will recall all the accusations and my responses in a clear way:
1- insulting Zeineb and devaluing her work
* I did not insult Zaineb. If Zaineb have another view, I invite her to
share details ?
* Yes, I think that Zaineb didn't make a sufficient work to participate
to conferences. This is my personal belive that I shared with Afek and Afek
betrayed me and passed information to Zaineb. Who is doing the gossiping in
this cas ? Can Afek deny that ?
2- Harassing Afek and trying to influence her to split Carthagina and
Wikimedia TNUG members.
* I didn't tried to influence her. If she has details, I invite her to
share ?
3- Afek reported as well that Mounir has stolen one of her ideas of Wiki
University Clubs.
* I didn't stole the Idea from Afek for two reasons:
1) I proposed the idea on meta befor Afek, I proposed the idea in
February (link
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikipedia_School>) and
she mentioned it on July . Who is first ?
2) Her idea is to target University and my Idea is to target a high
school, and both are in different places. For these two reasons, I ask Afek
to apologize for saying that I stole her Idea. Otherwise, I consider this
as a defamation.
4- Side conversations took place containing gossiping, shouting on the
phone and depreciation toward these members.
* I explained who is gossiping above. I didn't shout on the phone. After
all, why I have to shout ?
5- influencing voting
* This is not a valid accusation because I have all the right to
recommand a person without forcing and this is what I did. You can also see
in the mailing list or wikimedia facebook pages some members request voting
to get a grant or to go to a conference or to win a contest. Are they
influencing vote also ?
6- the grants that Mounir is receiving without letting us know... when we
all agreed that all grant requests should be known by the community and go
through our unique fiscal sponsor CLibre.
* I let the community know about the grant (see attached capture of an
email sent on 25/12/2016). The decision of grants should go through our
unique fiscal sponsor CLibre was taken during the conference of Sousse. How
can I apply a decision before it was made ?
In another hand, I have other information approving that Zainab didn't
respect codes of conducts of our community. I can share them in a closed
meeting/mailing under request of co-founders.
I kindly request from co-founders that they listen from the both sides. I
demonstrated some facts in this email and I think who practise the
gossiping and who make defmations are also breaking code of conducts and
Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative. Are they going to be
banned them from WMTNUG as well ?
Finally, I would like to thank all who stand with me, and say Allah
Ysamah for all who judged whithout gathering sufficient information.After
all of this, it will be uncomfortable to work within the group which I
animated most of its activities and worked days and nights for its
prosperity.
Kind regards,
Mounir
2017-09-22 22:40 GMT+01:00 hamed gamaoun <hamed.gamaoun(a)gmail.com>om>:
Dear All,
Sorry, Complaining about The decision "Made by" Mounir about who will go
to this conference and who will go to the other is *out of true*.
Representing WMTNUG in international conference is by voting from all
members as the previous one check this link"https://meta.wikimedia.or
g/wiki/Wikimedia_Tunisie/Candidates_Wikimedia_Conference_2017" or by
submitting as happened to previous conferences like Wikiconvention and
Wikiarabia
As far, I know if joining this community is after all to share knowledge
and information between members, creating and releasing workshop and
photowalks to share this movement locally as previously done.
So, if the purpose of joining this community just to travel abroad, that
will be a *Shame*!
Best,
Hamed
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