Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis
https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundat...
This has been on my mind a lot recently as well. How about we make it the presentation/discussion topic for the next meetup? (next Thursday if anyone needs a reminder)
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs <[audiodude@gmail.com](mailto:On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs <<a href=)> wrote:
Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundation-doxing-editors-antisemitism.html
That sounds great! I'll try to prepare a couple of slides, one to summarize the article and one with some possible discussion questions, if that sounds good?
-Travis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025, 22:45 emelinebrule emelinebrule@protonmail.com wrote:
This has been on my mind a lot recently as well. How about we make it the presentation/discussion topic for the next meetup? (next Thursday if anyone needs a reminder)
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs <audiodude@gmail.com <On+Wed,+Feb+5,+2025+at+9:36+PM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis
https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundat...
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That’s perfect!
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 7:54 AM, Travis Briggs <[audiodude@gmail.com](mailto:On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 7:54 AM, Travis Briggs <<a href=)> wrote:
That sounds great! I'll try to prepare a couple of slides, one to summarize the article and one with some possible discussion questions, if that sounds good?
-Travis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025, 22:45 emelinebrule < emelinebrule@protonmail.com> wrote:
This has been on my mind a lot recently as well. How about we make it the presentation/discussion topic for the next meetup? (next Thursday if anyone needs a reminder)
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs < [audiodude@gmail.com](mailto:On+Wed,+Feb+5,+2025+at+9:36+PM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=)> wrote:
Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundation-doxing-editors-antisemitism.html
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Is the meetup online or in person?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 9:08 AM emelinebrule emelinebrule@protonmail.com wrote:
That’s perfect!
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 7:54 AM, Travis Briggs <audiodude@gmail.com <On+Thu,+Feb+6,+2025+at+7:54+AM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=>> wrote:
That sounds great! I'll try to prepare a couple of slides, one to summarize the article and one with some possible discussion questions, if that sounds good?
-Travis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025, 22:45 emelinebrule < emelinebrule@protonmail.com> wrote:
This has been on my mind a lot recently as well. How about we make it the presentation/discussion topic for the next meetup? (next Thursday if anyone needs a reminder)
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs < audiodude@gmail.com <On+Wed,+Feb+5,+2025+at+9:36+PM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis
https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundat...
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in person - see activities tab on https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Wikipedians_User_Group
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM, Nathan Han <[nathan.han.3669@gmail.com](mailto:On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 3:46 PM, Nathan Han <<a href=)> wrote:
Is the meetup online or in person?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 9:08 AM emelinebrule < emelinebrule@protonmail.com> wrote:
That’s perfect!
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 7:54 AM, Travis Briggs < [audiodude@gmail.com](mailto:On+Thu,+Feb+6,+2025+at+7:54+AM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=)> wrote:
That sounds great! I'll try to prepare a couple of slides, one to summarize the article and one with some possible discussion questions, if that sounds good?
-Travis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025, 22:45 emelinebrule < emelinebrule@protonmail.com> wrote:
This has been on my mind a lot recently as well. How about we make it the presentation/discussion topic for the next meetup? (next Thursday if anyone needs a reminder)
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 9:36 PM, Travis Briggs < [audiodude@gmail.com](mailto:On+Wed,+Feb+5,+2025+at+9:36+PM,+Travis+Briggs+%3C%3Ca+href=)> wrote:
Hi folks,
I think this is a really well written and well researched article on some of the challenges with establishing consensus on politically charged topics, the dangers of doxing editors, and the possible capabilities of malicious actors with access to data brokers/online profiling data.
It certainly makes me wonder, do any of the tools I build or use that "vacuum up" Wikipedia data (via APIs and other means) make it possible for these threats to exist?
It also makes me reflect on discussions around expiring Quarry query results. A major stated goal was to protect editor privacy, but there was pushback from technical editors along the lines of "this inconveniences me" and "someone could just get the data another way".
Would love to discuss.
Cheers, -Travis https://slate.com/technology/2025/02/wikipedia-project-2025-heritage-foundation-doxing-editors-antisemitism.html
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