Dang, wish I could have went and volunteered there. Maybe at the next SF event...

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Jon <wiki@konsoletek.com> wrote:
Just as an FYI - the Maker Faire homepage ( http://makerfaire.com )
said that there were 65,000 people in attendance.

-Jon "ShakataGaNai"

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.ayers@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
>  It would be great to write up a quick article about the Maker Faire
>  experience for the en-Wikipedia Signpost. I started a quick subpage
>  for writing up an article -- if any of you want to contribute some of
>  your observations etc. below that would be super.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Phoebe/Faire
>
>  Jay, do you have stats on how many people visited the Faire / how many
>  people we had volunteering / etc. ?
>
>  cheers,
>  Phoebe
>
>
>
>  On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jay Walsh <jwalsh@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>  > Thanks for the comments guys - please keep 'em coming.  I've got a lot of
>  >  post-event stuff to do today, but I want to combine your wisdom and observations
>  >  into a report.
>  >
>  >  It was absolutely critical to have volunteers, and that we had so many (for such
>  >  long shifts!) was what made this successful.
>  >
>  >  I'll look forward to digesting all the comments and reflecting.  I'm not sure all
>  >  the volunteers are on the SF list... so I'll send out an email soon to all folks
>  >  who came.
>  >
>  >  Thanks - here's to more public presence for Wikimedia, the volunteers, and the
>  >  projects!
>  >
>  >  Jay Walsh
>  >  Head of Communications
>  >  WikimediaFoundation.org
>  >  +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Jon wrote:
>  >  > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:08 PM, William Pietri <william@scissor.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  Brion Vibber wrote:
>  >  >>  Turnout was much greater than we expected, and everybody seemed to
>  >  >> have a great time!
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  Personally, I had a great time, and will definitely do booth duty again
>  >  >> next year.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  A few thoughts:
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> It was great to hear the stories people had to tell about Wikipedia. I think
>  >  >> it would be wonderful to record some of them for various purposes. The
>  >  >> people gushing about Wikipedia were a great reminder to me that what we do
>  >  >> really matters in the daily lives of millions. The people with particular
>  >  >> issues put a human face on problems that are often reduced to abstract
>  >  >> acronyms in our world (ones that came up on my shift: WP:BAND, WP:NOT,
>  >  >> WP:BLP, WP:NPOV, WP:COI). And the responses I got to asking, "What did you
>  >  >> use Wikipedia for?" would be fabulous to show to potential donors, so they
>  >  >> know how big an effect it has.
>  >  >> The number one answer I got when I asked what people used Wikipedia for was
>  >  >> a brief pause followed by an exclamation: "Everything!" The best one was a
>  >  >> couple who looked at one another, laughed sheepishly, and said: "To settle
>  >  >> arguments!"
>  >  >> Most people don't believe they can edit. Over and over, I told people that
>  >  >> all it took was two mouse clicks and a little typing. No making an account,
>  >  >> no logging in, just seconds to fix a spelling error or a confusing sentence.
>  >  >> They were always surprised. It would be great to have a one-page handout
>  >  >> that says "You Too Can Edit Wikipedia!" and gives a simple introduction. If
>  >  >> that's been done already, let me know; otherwise I'll put it on my to-do
>  >  >> list.
>  >  >> There are a ton of subject matter experts out there who would like to
>  >  >> contribute, but will never become Wikipedia editors. Some are bemused by
>  >  >> Wikipedia, some frustrated. We should find a way to capture their
>  >  >> contributions as primary sources, raw material for our army of editors to
>  >  >> work from.
>  >  >> The common misconceptions and puzzlements about Wikipedia are indeed common.
>  >  >> I'd love to put together a common list of frequently asked questions from
>  >  >> events like this. At the very least, volunteers could prepare themselves
>  >  >> with ready answers. But a series of handouts might eventually evolve from
>  >  >> that.
>  >  >> I gave my card to several people. Some were people who would be valuable
>  >  >> contributors. Others were people who had article issues (BLP, deleted
>  >  >> articles, concern about corporate COI and POV-pushing). I wanted all of them
>  >  >> to have somebody to get them over the hump next they got stuck in our
>  >  >> sometimes-overwhelming operation. I'm not so scalable, but perhaps we could
>  >  >> have cards for some OTRS-like queue to get good people more help than can be
>  >  >> provided by a booth volunteer.
>  >  >>  Overall, I had a lot of fun. Thanks to Jay, Cary, and the others who made
>  >  >> this happen.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  William
>  >  >>
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>  >  >
>  >  > I agree.  Lots of fun!  I'll definitely help next time around.  I also
>  >  > have a few comments from my experience:
>  >  >
>  >  > * Most people know what Wikipedia is and how to use it.  I think there
>  >  > may have been a total of 1 person an hour that stopped in (and I
>  >  > talked to) that didn't know what it was.
>  >  > * Agreeing with William on the fact that alot of people don't
>  >  > understand editing.  Either they were scared, thought they weren't
>  >  > knowledgeable enough or simply thought they shouldn't.
>  >  > * It was great to have the book - I made sure everyone who thought
>  >  > they couldn't edit for one reason or another took a copy since it had
>  >  > a little section on how to get started.  Since there probably wont
>  >  > been little books to give away - 1 page flyer's or pamphlets would be
>  >  > good.  Along with "how to" they should include useful starting info
>  >  > like "Be Bold" and where to go for help.
>  >  > * Also maybe flyer's/pamphlets for some of the other big projects,
>  >  > like Commons.  I think a decent number of people were really
>  >  > interested in what Commons was.
>  >  > * It would have also be nice to have some small table top posters w/ a
>  >  > list of all the projects and what they are about.  Additionally a run
>  >  > down of facts & figures would be nice (# of registered users, # of
>  >  > articles, etc)
>  >  > * Tip jar was good ^_^
>  >  > * Again - with what William said - the biggest complaint I heard from
>  >  > people who had edited at least once: was being scared off.  Mainly
>  >  > from having their changes immediately reverted - and generally it was
>  >  > from over zealous editors who were "protecting" their article
>  >  > (rightfully or not).  This isn't anything new - but none these people
>  >  > knew where to go to get help or be heard.  Honestly I didn't know so
>  >  > my suggestion was the Talk page.
>  >  > * I think this exists somewhere: but a quick flash video of how to
>  >  > edit w/ very basic formatting.  Something that could be played on
>  >  > demand for people to give them an idea of how truly easy it is to
>  >  > edit.  Run on little laptops on the front tables.
>  >  >
>  >  > Side note on stickers:
>  >  > * Whom ever dropped off the [citation needed] stickers is AWESOME and
>  >  > were, by far, the most popular sticker.
>  >  > * I still think we should have little commons stickers (like the
>  >  > wikipedia ones) to affix to Camera's.  Ok - that might just be me...
>  >  > * The project stickers were very popular.  I snuck off with a few at a
>  >  > time (so as to not waste them) and they disappeared very quickly.
>  >  >
>  >  > -Jon "ShakataGaNai"
>  >  >
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