Hi Karen,

FYI I am also super interested in bibliographies -- one of my (many) pet projects is promoting bibliographies & further reading lists in articles. I'd be glad to talk more about this offline, or on the libraries list! (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries)

cheers,
-- phoebe

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:
Sue, sorry we won't see you, but another time, for sure.

This connects up to Asaf's desire to work on bibliographies, I think. I, too, am very interested in that. My goal would be to have a set of good readings on as many of the topics in Wikipedia that we can cover. Not a giant-o complete list of everything written, but perhaps a "start here, continue on to..." There's no use giving folks a list of 3000 books and articles on a topic if you don't give them a starting point. So I've been reading up on principles of bibliography, classification, etc., and I think this is something that we can do that is totally useful.

If I get a chance I'll make a short bibliography of these on Zotero or something, so that they don't get lost.

kc


On 8/27/13 11:33 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:
Gah. I just realized I'm out of town that weekend so I won't be at the
editathon. That's a shame --- I'd been looking forward to it.

FWIW though, in case anybody wants to edit on transgender issues, here
are the books I've been working from. I'm not saying they're the best,
but they seem fine :-)

Thanks,
Sue

* Men Trapped in Men's Bodies: Narratives of Autogynephilic
Transsexualism By Anne A. Lawrence
* Principles and Practice of Sex Therapy, Fourth Edition edited by
Sandra R. Leiblum
* Clinical Skills in Infant Mental Health By Louise Newman, Beulah Warren
* Whipping Girl:A Transsexual Woman on Sexism and the Scapegoating of
Femininity by Julia Serano (*this one's great for general orientation to
the topic)
* Gender Circuits: Bodies and Identities in a Technological Age By Eve
Shapiro
* Beyond Sexuality By Tim Dean
* The Health of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People By
Committee on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Health Issues and
Research Gaps and Opportunities, Board on the Health of Select
Populations, Institute of Medicine
* The Riddle of Gender By Deborah Rudacille
* Transitions: A Guide to Transitioning for Transsexuals and Their
Families By Mara Drummond
* Gender Dysphoria and Disorders of Sex Development: Progress in Care
and Knowledge (Focus on Sexuality Research) [Hardcover]
Baudewijntje P.C. Kreukels (Editor), Thomas D. Steensma (Editor),
Annelou L.C. de Vries (Editor)
* Perspectives on Human Sexuality By Anne Bolin, Patricia Whelehan
* Human Sexuality: Biological, Psychological, and Cultural Perspectives
By Anne Bolin



On 26 August 2013 16:23, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
<mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:

    OK, you can be the reference librarian!

    kc


    On 8/26/13 1:59 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:

        I'll come with a VPN set up to UCB's campus that will allow me
        to pull
        down articles from almost all academic journals for people as
        needed.

        ----
        Kevin Gorman


        On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Sue Gardner
        <sgardner@wikimedia.org <mailto:sgardner@wikimedia.org>
        <mailto:sgardner@wikimedia.org

        <mailto:sgardner@wikimedia.org>__>> wrote:

             I usually find my sources through Google Books (plus I have
        a hard
             copy of Julia Serano's Whipping Girl). I'll check my Google
        Books
             bookmarks, probably tonight, and send them to this list.
        The journal
             subscriptions will be really useful for me too -- I don't have
             access to anything that's not publicly available.

             Thanks,
             Sue

             On Aug 26, 2013 1:06 PM, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
        <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
             <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>>> wrote:

                 Sue, great. Do you have a sense of what your sources
        will be?
                 I'm thinking that we could have some "reference
        materials" in
                 the room on our topics. In addition, BPL has some journal
                 subscriptions that might be useful. (SFPL has more, if
        you have
                 a library card with them.)

                 I know what you mean about "actually editing."
        Sometimes you
                 don't get much done, but I find I do get a lot of
        stimulation
                 for later edits.

                 kc

                 On 8/26/13 11:44 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:

                     I'm planning to come, and I'm going to try to edit
        on some
                     trans topics
                     ("gender identity disorder" and stuff like that),
        since they are
                     presumably getting a lot of traffic these days, and the
                     articles aren't
                     very good.

                     (That said, my track record of actually editing at an
                     editathon is
                     pretty poor: I mostly end up talking or hanging
        out, not
                     editing. But I
                     am going to try.)

                     Thanks,
                     Sue

                     On Aug 25, 2013 3:00 PM, "Kevin Gorman"
        <kgorman@gmail.com <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com>
                     <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com>>
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        <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com> <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com
        <mailto:kgorman@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

                          I would be more than happy to provide an intro
        in that
                     slot - I've
                          done a lot of similar presentations for education
                     program events and
                          for editathons.  I usually use
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/____Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET
        <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>



        <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET
        <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>> as my basic
                          handout type thing; it can be printed out, but
        we can
                     also just give
                          people the link (since presumably everyone
        will have a
                     laptop with
                          them.)  There are a few others floating
        around, but I think
                          WP:CHEATSHEET is the easiest/most compact to use.

                          I'll also try to come up with some possible
        topics and
                     add them to
                          the editathon page within the next few days.

                          Thanks,
                          Kevin Gorman


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