Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani - Lucie-Aimée Kaffee - MusikAnimal - Tonina Zhelyazkova - Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji - Matanya - Nuria Ruiz - Rosalie Perside - Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are: * Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members * MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main * Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
[0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_me...
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections have raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee and its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members starts serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and welcome Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
Welcome and thank you for serving/having served in such an important role !
DJ
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 11:39 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections have raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee and its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members starts serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and welcome Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
[0]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_me...
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
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Amir
May we not know the real names of the committee members, as opposed to their pseudonyms? Surely that is necessary, both as a matter of general principle, and specifically in case it were ever to turn out that a member of the committee might be involved in a complaint.
The Turnip
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 10:39, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections have raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee and its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members starts serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and welcome Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for *six weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to the structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
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Hello, (As a member, not talking on behalf of the committee) The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to disclose their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC and if you think it should be added, feel free start a discussion on CoC amendment [0] but in the mean time, we are not allowed and won't disclose people's real identities. The committee itself refrain involving people who have conflict of interest with the case (whether it involves them or someone close)
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Amendments
Best
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:43 AM Thomas Townsend homesec1783@gmail.com wrote:
Amir
May we not know the real names of the committee members, as opposed to their pseudonyms? Surely that is necessary, both as a matter of general principle, and specifically in case it were ever to turn out that a member of the committee might be involved in a complaint.
The Turnip
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 10:39, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections have raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee and its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members starts serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and
welcome
Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new committee candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the current committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for
*six
weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to
the
structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the new committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
[0]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_me...
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
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Hi Amir,
Thanks. I agree with your assessment.
Probably asking for the obvious: is there someone on the committee that knows the real world identity (and the other way around, the online pseudonym) of each member, and could flag a COI/suggest to abstain if need be? (aside from people refraining themselves)
Lodewijk
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:32 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, (As a member, not talking on behalf of the committee) The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to disclose their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC and if you think it should be added, feel free start a discussion on CoC amendment [0] but in the mean time, we are not allowed and won't disclose people's real identities. The committee itself refrain involving people who have conflict of interest with the case (whether it involves them or someone close)
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Amendments
Best
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:43 AM Thomas Townsend homesec1783@gmail.com wrote:
Amir
May we not know the real names of the committee members, as opposed to their pseudonyms? Surely that is necessary, both as a matter of general principle, and specifically in case it were ever to turn out that a member of the committee might be involved in a complaint.
The Turnip
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 10:39, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections
have
raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee
and
its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members
starts
serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and
welcome
Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new
committee
candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the
current
committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback for
*six
weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes to
the
structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the
new
committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
[0]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_me...
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
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Hey, People in the committee have meetings from time to time, so they know each other but we don't have any "dedicated" person to keep track of real identities/pseudonym of the members.
HTH Best
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:55 PM effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Amir,
Thanks. I agree with your assessment.
Probably asking for the obvious: is there someone on the committee that knows the real world identity (and the other way around, the online pseudonym) of each member, and could flag a COI/suggest to abstain if need be? (aside from people refraining themselves)
Lodewijk
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:32 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, (As a member, not talking on behalf of the committee) The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to
disclose
their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC and if you think it should be added, feel free start a discussion on CoC amendment [0] but in the mean time, we are not allowed and won't disclose people's real identities. The committee itself refrain involving people who have
conflict
of interest with the case (whether it involves them or someone close)
[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Amendments
Best
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:43 AM Thomas Townsend homesec1783@gmail.com wrote:
Amir
May we not know the real names of the committee members, as opposed to their pseudonyms? Surely that is necessary, both as a matter of general principle, and specifically in case it were ever to turn out that a member of the committee might be involved in a complaint.
The Turnip
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 10:39, Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello everyone, The deadline for the public feedback was yesterday. Some objections
have
raised but committee decided not to change the structure of committee
and
its candidates. It means the new committee with the given members
starts
serving as of today until 19 June 2020.
Please join me on thanking Nuria and Rosalie for their service and
welcome
Tonina and MusikAnimal to the main members of the committee.
Best
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:13 PM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello, The committee has finished selecting new members and the new
committee
candidates are (In alphabetical order):
- Amir Sarabadani
- Lucie-Aimée Kaffee
- MusikAnimal
- Tonina Zhelyazkova
- Tony Thomas
And auxiliary members will be (In alphabetical order):
- Huji
- Matanya
- Nuria Ruiz
- Rosalie Perside
- Tpt
You can read more about the members in [0]
The changes are:
- Nuria and Rosalie are moving from main member to auxilary members
- MusikAnimal is moving from auxilary member to main
- Tonina Zhelyazkova is joining the main members
This is not the final structure. According to the CoC [1], the
current
committee publishes the new members and call for public feedback
for
*six
weeks* and after that, the current committtee might apply changes
to
the
structure based on public feedback.
Please let the committee know if you have any concern regarding the members and its structure until *19 June 2019* and after that, the
new
committee will be in effect and will serve for a year.
[0]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee/Members/Candidates
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct/Committee#Selection_of_new_me...
Amir, On behalf of the Code of Conduct committee Best
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Amir
The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to disclose their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC
That does not appear to be correct. The CoC policy requires that the volunteer committee members identify themselves *to the Foundation*.
The Turnip
Yes, I don't see those to be contradictory. All members need to identify themselves to WMF but not to each other or public.
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 18:36 Thomas Townsend homesec1783@gmail.com wrote:
Amir
The committee is a body of volunteers and they can't be forced to
disclose
their real identities. There's no such policy in the CoC
That does not appear to be correct. The CoC policy requires that the volunteer committee members identify themselves *to the Foundation*.
The Turnip
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