On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria(a)gmail.com> wrote: Dunno, but he seems to be the community organizer. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Yesterday I started two discussion threads for this issue, one one the Wikizh-l mailing list, the other on the zh.wikipedia Google Group (both are official discussion lists for the Chinese Wikipedia): Wikizh-l thread: (in Chinese) http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikizh-l/2012-March/000733.html zh.wikipedia thread (in Chinese): https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/zh_wikipedia/5… The two threads are still early in discussion, but commenters so far support adopting the latest MediaWiki version, but they also pointed out a bug that needs to be resolved (Chinese text should be converted to either all-simplified or all-traditional before PDF creation): https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34919 Previously there was another bug (Chinese lines don't wrap automatically) and it was resolved: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33430 From this resolved bug report you can find the relevant developers of MediaWiki's PDF creation feature (PediaPress). On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I think Shizhao is subscribed to this list :-)  but I cc: him > just in case. > This sounds like a reasonable request.  Can one of the developers > involved comment on the situation? > > Ziyuan: can you post a link to the discussion on the chinese wikipedia > about whether to upgrade? > > SJ > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Yao Ziyuan <yaoziyuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Side question: >>> >>> Does Chinese Wikipedia indeed have an elected or consensus "leader" or >>> some sort? >> >> Dunno, but he seems to be the community organizer. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Richard >>> (User:Pharos) >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Yao Ziyuan <yaoziyuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I think you guys can all see how useful it would be if the Chinese >>>> Wikipedia also has the ebook/PDF creation feature as seen on other >>>> language Wikipedias. Some countries don't always let their people >>>> visit Wikipedia, so ebooks can be an alternative. >>>> >>>> We have tried to solve this bug that prevents the Chinese/Japanese >>>> Wikipedias from having this feature: >>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33430 >>>> >>>> The relevant developers (PediaPress) have solved the bug to some >>>> extent, but Shi Zhao, leader of the Chinese Wikipedia, still doesn't >>>> think the resulting Chinese PDF files are good enough, so the Chinese >>>> Wikipedia has not yet upgraded to the latest MediaWiki software to get >>>> this feature. >>>> >>>> My two suggestions: >>>> (1) Persuade Shi Zhao to adopt the latest MediaWiki software, which >>>> can generate ebook/PDFs for the Chinese Wikipedia, although the page >>>> layout is not perfect. >>>> (2) Or find another organization than PediaPress to provide this >>>> feature, because PediaPress refuses to adopt a more Unicode-friendly >>>> PDF code library that provides better Chinese PDF rendering. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ziyuan Yao >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foundation-l mailing list >>> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > -- > Samuel Klein          identi.ca:sj           w:user:sj          +1 617 529 4266 > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l