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Brian McNeil

23 Oct 2007 23 Oct '07

1:32 p.m.

I had the video stall on me so clicked for the YouTube "unofficial" mirror. After the video YouTube runs ads for a number of clips entitled "Wikipedia sucks". Is there somewhere else the video can be put that it isn't going to be followed by stuff like this? Brian.

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Brion Vibber

23 Oct 23 Oct

3:12 p.m.

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I had the video stall on me so clicked for the YouTube "unofficial" mirror. After the video YouTube runs ads for a number of clips entitled "Wikipedia sucks". Is there somewhere else the video can be put that it isn't going to be followed by stuff like this?

Being able to post "X sucks" is our god-given right as internet citizens. - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)

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Brian McNeil

3:30 p.m.

Brion Vibber wrote:

Brian McNeil wrote:

I had the video stall on me so clicked for the YouTube "unofficial"

mirror.

After the video YouTube runs ads for a number of clips entitled

"Wikipedia

sucks". Is there somewhere else the video can be put that it isn't going

to

be followed by stuff like this?

Being able to post "X sucks" is our god-given right as internet citizens.

I don't disagree with that. I'm asking can we use a mirror that doesn't have that the instant after ours finishes? I even watched a couple of them. I appreciate video sucks up bandwidth like inhaling golfballs through a hosepipe, and as a result we need a backup that uses Akaimi (sp?) or similar. The comments on the YouTube video are almost all positive, so there doesn't really seem to be much desire to say "Wikipedia sucks" among the viewers. It is the relevance algorithm that is associating the videos in a way that isn't good. Let me guess... Fall back to tried principles, more speech is better. Get making "Wikipedia rocks!" videos to go up alongside Jimbo's on YouTube. :) Oh, and the eyes bit bugged me too. Brian.

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Mark Bergsma

3:35 p.m.

Brian McNeil wrote:

I appreciate video sucks up bandwidth like inhaling golfballs through a hosepipe, and as a result we need a backup that uses Akaimi (sp?) or similar. The comments on the YouTube video are almost all positive, so there doesn't really seem to be much desire to say "Wikipedia sucks" among the viewers. It is the relevance algorithm that is associating the videos in a way that isn't good.

Actually the amount of bandwidth that video is using currently is not visible at all in the statistics, so that's certainly not a problem at this point. -- Mark Bergsma <mark(a)wikimedia.org> System & Network Administrator, Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikinews Markie

24 Oct 24 Oct

1 p.m.

ive uploaded the video to DotSub. this allows people to add transcriptions and subtitles/close captioning to the films meaning that it can be internationalized into any language. The videos at http://dotsub.com/films/wikimedia2007/index.php and currently has the option of English, English with subtitles and a French translation. I hope to also put up the Italian and Dutch translations today but anyone can do it ;-). This mirror is ad free and doesnt come up with the "Wikipedia Sucks" bits either. Hopefully this is better than the Youtube version. Thanks Mark On 10/23/07, Mark Bergsma <mark(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

Brian McNeil wrote:

I appreciate video sucks up bandwidth like inhaling golfballs through a hosepipe, and as a result we need a backup that uses Akaimi (sp?) or similar. The comments on the YouTube video are almost all positive, so

there

doesn't really seem to be much desire to say "Wikipedia sucks" among the viewers. It is the relevance algorithm that is associating the videos in

a

way that isn't good.

Actually the amount of bandwidth that video is using currently is not visible at all in the statistics, so that's certainly not a problem at this point. -- Mark Bergsma <mark(a)wikimedia.org> System & Network Administrator, Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Brian McNeil

1:14 p.m.

This is great. A subtitled version is a great addition. I certainly prefer this to the YouTube one. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Wikinews Markie Sent: 24 October 2007 15:00 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Video on youtube ive uploaded the video to DotSub. this allows people to add transcriptions and subtitles/close captioning to the films meaning that it can be internationalized into any language. The videos at http://dotsub.com/films/wikimedia2007/index.php and currently has the option of English, English with subtitles and a French translation. I hope to also put up the Italian and Dutch translations today but anyone can do it ;-). This mirror is ad free and doesnt come up with the "Wikipedia Sucks" bits either. Hopefully this is better than the Youtube version. Thanks Mark On 10/23/07, Mark Bergsma <mark(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

Brian McNeil wrote:

I appreciate video sucks up bandwidth like inhaling golfballs through a hosepipe, and as a result we need a backup that uses Akaimi (sp?) or similar. The comments on the YouTube video are almost all positive, so

there

doesn't really seem to be much desire to say "Wikipedia sucks" among the viewers. It is the relevance algorithm that is associating the videos in

a

way that isn't good.

Actually the amount of bandwidth that video is using currently is not visible at all in the statistics, so that's certainly not a problem at this point. -- Mark Bergsma <mark(a)wikimedia.org> System & Network Administrator, Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Wikinews Markie

1:49 p.m.

okay its now in Dutch and Italian as well. Would do lots of other languages but that's all the translations there are. So its now available in Dutch, English, French and Italian. Hopefully more to come when the translations have been done on Meta. Link is http://dotsub.com/films/wikimedia2007/index.php

From there you can select the language to watch from the drop down box to

the left of the pic and can also translate the film into other languages using the right hand box. Maybe someone could put a link to this on the fund raising page<http://wikimediafoundation.org/donate/2007/psa/>??? (Hint Brion!!) Thanks Mark

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Florence Devouard

2:49 p.m.

It is *fabulous*. Thanks so much for those who made translations possible ! ant Wikinews Markie wrote:

okay its now in Dutch and Italian as well. Would do lots of other languages but that's all the translations there are. So its now available in Dutch, English, French and Italian. Hopefully more to come when the translations have been done on Meta. Link is http://dotsub.com/films/wikimedia2007/index.php From there you can select the language to watch from the drop down box to the left of the pic and can also translate the film into other languages using the right hand box. Maybe someone could put a link to this on the fund raising page<http://wikimediafoundation.org/donate/2007/psa/>??? (Hint Brion!!) Thanks Mark _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Wikinews Markie

2:55 p.m.

ive been told that the subtitled videos are now being made for on-site and also the link will be updated to link to the offsite version in the meantime. also yes thanks to the translators as it wouldn't have been possible without them. mark On 10/24/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

It is *fabulous*. Thanks so much for those who made translations possible ! ant Wikinews Markie wrote:

okay its now in Dutch and Italian as well. Would do lots of other

languages

but that's all the translations there are. So its now available in

Dutch,

English, French and Italian. Hopefully more to come when the

translations

have been done on Meta. Link is http://dotsub.com/films/wikimedia2007/index.php From there you can select the language to watch from the drop down box

to

the left of the pic and can also translate the film into other languages using the right hand box. Maybe someone could put a link to this on the fund raising page<http://wikimediafoundation.org/donate/2007/psa/>??? (Hint Brion!!) Thanks Mark _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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