My first guess would be that the company is mentioned as a way to notify users that they will be sending data to an outside company if they click on the link (but the text you quote is not that clear on the privacy aspect here). Best regards, Bence 2015-11-06 12:33 GMT+01:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < itzik(a)wikimedia.org.il&gt; : to _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Hi Itzik, We placed that note as it is standard practice to let users know when a link will be taking them outside the Wikimedia projects. We linked to the Qualtrics privacy statement, as we felt that users should have access to that if they wanted to read it. Petefosyth has made some changes to it, based on this discussion [1]. It now reads "Survey data handled by a third party". Best, [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bure… On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Mardetanha &lt;mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: wrote: notify click aspect and related https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, -- Patrick Earley Community Advocate Wikimedia Foundation pearley(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Thank you, I responded also there. I found the link to their full website (where the privacy doc is hosted) still problematic, as the page also include bold and many links to uses their (commercial) services. This is totally not ok from my POV. Better to host the privacy doc on Wiki (or a different version), and to mention there that we are using 3rd party system. *Regards,Itzik Edri* Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment! On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Pete Forsyth &lt;peteforsyth(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Ziko van Dijk &lt;zvandijk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Ziko, This is true, of course; but it does not address what is under discussion here. It is also normal for partnership agreements to include specifications of how those mentions are carried out to meet certain objectives, while also avoiding problems for both parties. With nearly every one of my clients, this is specified by either an informal or a formal contract, prior to the announcement or commencement of the project. Regrettably, it is also rather normal for the Wikimedia Foundation to pay insufficient attention to such arrangements. This leaves volunteers in the position of cleaning up the mess, and sometimes, of playing the role of the "bad guy" whose image suffers from telling somebody that they can't have what they want.

Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:09:06 -0800 From: peteforsyth(a)gmail.com To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice? This is under discussion on Meta Wiki, and I made some changes this morning. Please be sure any significant comments are put on-wiki, where Meta admins and community are more likely to see them. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bure… -Pete On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Earley &lt;pearley(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

From: p858snake(a)gmail.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:31:43 +1000 To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice? E:QuickSurvey is currently under development by the WMF for this. On 8 November 2015 at 18:52, Steinsplitter Wiki &lt;steinsplitter-wiki(a)live.com > Some thoughts: > Pete, Thanks for bringing this up here and taking action on meta. I was > concerned seeing the link to a commercial company in the central notice > banner. > > I am wondering why the wmf can't set up a own survey. For example using > https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ ( > https://www.limesurvey.org/en/about-limesurvey/license) > > To protect users privacy third party services shouldn't be used, > especially in central noticed. > > It would be worth knowing if the wmf needs to pay for that survey stuff. > > I am also wondering what's the benefit of this survey, but that's a other > question... > > Best, > :-) > > > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:09:06 -0800 > > From: peteforsyth(a)gmail.com > > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Advertising in Central notice? > > > > This is under discussion on Meta Wiki, and I made some changes this > > morning. Please be sure any significant comments are put on-wiki, where > > Meta admins and community are more likely to see them. > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bure… > > > > -Pete > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Earley &lt;pearley(a)wikimedia.org&gt; > > > > > > Hi Itzik, > > > > > > We placed that note as it is standard practice to let users know when a > > > link will be taking them outside the Wikimedia projects. We linked to > the > > > Qualtrics privacy statement, as we felt that users should have access > to > > > that if they wanted to read it. > > > > > > Petefosyth has made some changes to it, based on this discussion [1]. > It > > > now reads "Survey data handled by a third party". > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bure… > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Mardetanha &lt;mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > > > > > > > ​it was strange for me too, we never did such thing before​ > > > > > > > > Mardetanha > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bence Damokos &lt;bdamokos(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > > > > > > > > > My first guess would be that the company is mentioned as a way to > > > notify > > > > > users that they will be sending data to an outside company if they > > > click > > > > on > > > > > the link (but the text you quote is not that clear on the privacy > > > aspect > > > > > here). > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Bence > > > > > > > > > > 2015-11-06 12:33 GMT+01:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < > > > > > itzik(a)wikimedia.org.il&gt; > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > "We invite you to participate in a survey about online > harassment on > > > > > > Wikimedia projects. > > > > > > *Survey powered by Qualtrics"* > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not the the first survey runs through the Qualtrics, but > that's > > > > the > > > > > > first time I see credit to them. We most of the time, even in > GLAM > > > and > > > > > > others partnerships trying to avoid as much as we can mentions > > > > > > organizations names, as it can be consider to be advertising. > > > > > > > > > > > > But mention a company (that we even paid them), and linking to > their > > > > > > website? that's new and concern a bit. I'll be happy if someone > > > related > > > > > to > > > > > > this decision can give more information about the idea behind it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Regards,Itzik Edri* > > > > > > Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel > > > > > > +972-(0)-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il > > > > > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely > share in > > > > the > > > > > > sum of all knowledge. 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