All,
In my tiredness, I misread a previous email, and answered it in error. I withdraw this
entire mail and apologize to Gerard for my entirely out of line scolding of him. I
misread, and answered what I thought I read, rather than what the conversation was apart.
My apologies.
philippe
----- Original Message -----
From: Philippe Beaudette
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] #wikipedia IRC channel guidelines review
You know, like many people, I type "wikipedia" automatically - since
that's the website I go to most often, but I have to stop and think Wikimedia.
It's not a lack of knowledge, or of sensitivity, it's muscle memory.
I made that mistake a couple times during the recent election, and Aphaia gently and
with great humour corrected me, while pointing out the mistake. I only did it once or
twice and then I really did slow down and think about what I typed.
I think I like Aphaia's method better than Gerard's scolding. Seems much less
extreme to me.
philippe
----- Original Message -----
From: GerardM
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] #wikipedia IRC channel guidelines review
Hoi,
When it is horrid to state that something is wrong at the bases ie meaning
that this cannot be said, then indeed it is horrid. I doubt also very much
that there is any effective control over the #wikipedia-* channels. If it is
to asserted it in the same way as it was done with the #wikipedia channel it
will not create the same uproar, it will be much worse.
When there is indeed jurisdiction over multiple channels, it is because of
these channels being Wikimedia Foundation related. Not more not less.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 7/30/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote:
First, what a horrid thing to say. Second, by Wikipedia-affiliated he
meant
the #wikipedia-* channels on IRC. That is where Mark's jurisdiction is,
and
that is what the guidelines are for. I do not see what the problem with
his
statement was.
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023
-----Original Message-----
From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:44 PM
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Cc: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] #wikipedia IRC channel guidelines review
Mark,
There are Wikimedia affiliated IRC channels on Freenode.
Thanks for getting even the basics wrong.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 7/30/07, Mark Ryan <ultrablue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone.
As a few of you may know, about 5 weeks ago some new guidelines were
put into place on meta for the IRC channel #wikipedia. At the same
time, the operator access list for the channel was emptied and started
from scratch.
The changes were quite unpopular, to say the least. A discussion
thread was started about them on the foundation-l mailing list, but
probably should have been started on wikipedia-l.
Now that I am back from my holiday, I have opened a review discussion
about the guidelines on their talk page on meta, which you can access
at the follow URL:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:IRC_guidelines/wikipedia
I would very much appreciate the input there of all people who have an
interest in the guidelines, and indeed any users of the
Wikipedia-affiliated IRC channels on Freenode.
~Mark Ryan
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